thanks kevin for the link and the insider info on the membership suite: sounds great!!! i'll take a look at the solution that you put together and perhaps bug you here and there about it! ha! FYI, the site i am working on is at: http://www.unixaddict.com perhaps you might give your two cents on how to make this process more effective? this is still pre-Alpha, so be gentle!! ha! thanks for all the help, veritas ------ Do you do Linux? :) Get your FREE @linuxstart.com email address at: http://www.linuxstart.com