Re: [Zope-Annce] Zope Controller GUI Windows 1.0 release
Great, thank you but why is your tool only available on windows and not also on other OSes as ZOPE itself is ? Best regards, Nicolas Pettiaux Le Mercredi 17 Octobre 2001 03:34, Richard Jones a écrit :
Bizar Software is pleased to make available the first release of their Zope Controller GUI for Windows. All functionality is present, but the documentation is lacking. This release is definitely only for people who know their way around their Windows Zope installation. Please read the installation notes (such that they are) carefully!
The Windows Zope Controller is a Graphical User Interface for Windows which allows user-friendly control of a Zope server on the local machine. This is a modified version of the controller we will ship with the next version of our Bizar Shop software product. The modification involves the removal of some Shop-specific code that simply doesn't apply to Zope. Screenshots are available at Bizar Software's website (though they are quite out of date at the moment, sorry.)
Zope Controller information and download: http://www.zope.org/Members/richard/zope_controller/win/ Bizar Software: http://www.bizarsoftware.com.au/
Richard
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On Thursday 18 October 2001 06:08, Nicolas Pettiaux wrote:
Great, thank you but why is your tool only available on windows and not also on other OSes as ZOPE itself is ?
It is also available for Mac OSX - has been for much longer than Windows. As for other platforms - they're not nearly as high a priority for us. And make no mistake - this GUI wouldn't exist if we didn't have a need to make the Zope experience more user-friendly for our Windows and Mac OSX customers. We've found that our Linux/FreeBSD customers are happy to use command-line tools. Richard
Thank you for your answer. Le Jeudi 18 Octobre 2001 01:31, Richard Jones a écrit :
On Thursday 18 October 2001 06:08, Nicolas Pettiaux wrote:
Great, thank you but why is your tool only available on windows and not also on other OSes as ZOPE itself is ?
It is also available for Mac OSX - has been for much longer than Windows. As for other platforms - they're not nearly as high a priority for us. And make no mistake - this GUI wouldn't exist if we didn't have a need to make the Zope experience more user-friendly for our Windows and Mac OSX customers. We've found that our Linux/FreeBSD customers are happy to use command-line tools.
But still, I bet many Unix zope users would love such a gui. As it works on Mac OSX it should not be difficult to port to these Unices (Linux/FreeBSD and others) Thanks, Nicolas
Richard
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On Thursday 18 October 2001 13:41, Nicolas Pettiaux wrote:
Le Jeudi 18 Octobre 2001 01:31, Richard Jones a écrit :
On Thursday 18 October 2001 06:08, Nicolas Pettiaux wrote:
Great, thank you but why is your tool only available on windows and not also on other OSes as ZOPE itself is ?
It is also available for Mac OSX - has been for much longer than Windows. As for other platforms - they're not nearly as high a priority for us. And make no mistake - this GUI wouldn't exist if we didn't have a need to make the Zope experience more user-friendly for our Windows and Mac OSX customers. We've found that our Linux/FreeBSD customers are happy to use command-line tools.
But still, I bet many Unix zope users would love such a gui. As it works on Mac OSX it should not be difficult to port to these Unices (Linux/FreeBSD and others)
Not so fast. Both the Windows and OSX GUIs have been developed in the native tongue. That is, on Windows, it's very much MFC and win32-specifc backend code. On the Mac, it's Carbon with a POSIX backend. The POSIX backend code could be transported to another Un*x with no problem, but the entire front-end needs developing from the ground up. We're currently in release hell (to paraphrase the film industry :), but once we're through with that, a Linux GUI (based on a completely free toolkit [*wah* can't use Qt :(]) is on the cards. Richard
On Thu, 18 Oct 2001, Nicolas Pettiaux wrote:
But still, I bet many Unix zope users would love such a gui. As it works on Mac OSX it should not be difficult to port to these Unices (Linux/FreeBSD and others)
Actually the number interested is probably fairly low in percentage on the unices. Most of the zope servers I run do not have monitors on them at all or keyboards, mice etc. I ssh in remotely to do anything that needs doing and overall just using the command line tools is a lot faster overall for me. However it would seem if someone wanted a cross platform gui config for zope tkinter would be a good choice since it comes with python. I prefer wxPython or pyQT myself but tkinter would work.
On Thursday 18 October 2001 14:21, kosh@aesaeion.com wrote:
On Thu, 18 Oct 2001, Nicolas Pettiaux wrote:
But still, I bet many Unix zope users would love such a gui. As it works on Mac OSX it should not be difficult to port to these Unices (Linux/FreeBSD and others)
Actually the number interested is probably fairly low in percentage on the unices. Most of the zope servers I run do not have monitors on them at all or keyboards, mice etc. I ssh in remotely to do anything that needs doing and overall just using the command line tools is a lot faster overall for me. However it would seem if someone wanted a cross platform gui config for zope tkinter would be a good choice since it comes with python. I prefer wxPython or pyQT myself but tkinter would work.
Cross-platform is a possibility for the Unixes - but for windows and the mac, the native toolkits are really the only way to go (and for windows, the win32 api is much better to use than the posix api used for the mac.) We have concerns about licensing of the toolkits - as far as we can tell, we wouldn't be able to use Qt (my favourite) because we bundle the app with our commercial product. I haven't looked at wxPython recently, but I think last time I looked it was a problem too. Richard
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