Hi Andy, Sorry to question you, but from what I understand <dtml-with "ftp"> <dtml-var index_html> </dtml-with> is "Bad Andy" Should be <dtml-with ftp> <dtml-var index_html> </dtml-with> Seems he wants to call the object and not the string right? I'm just testing if I learned anything about Zopemantics yet. -Jimbo