What kind of Zope product would you like to see?
Sorry, this is going to contain several ignorant assumptions. I've decided to write a Zope product, and my next step is deciding what it should do. Having knocked around a few poor ideas, I thought this might be the right place to look for suggestions. Perhaps someone out there has an idea for a simple product that'll do just what they need, but they can't code it themselves.I'm happy to jump in there and get coding if the idea's a good one. All I'd ask from you is some patience in debugging my efforts.Just so you know: this will be my first attempts in Python, let alone Zope. I've just finished reading the 'Zope Bible' and Web Application Construction Kit and am keen to put what I've learnt into practice by creating an open source Zope product and try to make a few quid from it. I'm a sysadmin with more years experience than I like to admit to, and I'm looking to this as my route out of that.For example, I was thinking of some sort of helpdesk thing, but I see this is already covered by the IssueHandler and 'f2w' projects (the first isn't looking for volunteers, the second requires Linux, which I haven't got). Then I'm thinking of something for running clubs, but Plone seems to have that covered better than I ever will. Maybe you're trying to run a zoo or a prison or a bike shop and I can provide you with a solution? Or you know someone who does?I will be quite happy to put this up on sourceforge if I get anywhere, but I don't want to do that until I have code for people to play with.CheersJim --------------------------------- Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo!Messenger
Jim McNeill wrote:
Sorry, this is going to contain several ignorant assumptions. I've decided to write a Zope product, and my next step is deciding what it should do. Having knocked around a few poor ideas, I thought this might be the right place to look for suggestions. Perhaps someone out there
As a learning experience, you could pick up a product that has not been maintained for a long time, and update it. It would be easier than writing from scratch, and many people would be happy, because there are many abandoned but very useful products out there. -- Milos Prudek
Milos, Thank you, that is something I had thought of but probably not explored sufficiently. Amongst my many areas of ignorance I include contributing to open source projects - for instance I've never managed to get CVS working under windows. And I'm not entirely sure what it's meant to do! I have spent most of my working life as the only developer on user sites, so kicking off a project on my own seemed the thing to do. I have had a rake about on sourceforge and freshmeat for Zope 'abandonware', but I've been put off by their overwhelming 'technical' objectives (I like delivering to business users), not to mention their disdain for commenting their code! However in light of your suggestion I'll have another crack. If you don't mind me asking: how would I go about 'taking over' a likely project - an email to the owner maybe? And have you any 'abandoned but very useful' project in mind? Thanks Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Milos Prudek" <prudek@bvx.cz> To: "Jim McNeill" <jim_zope@yahoo.co.uk>; <zope@zope.org> Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 8:35 AM Subject: Re: [Zope] What kind of Zope product would you like to see?
Jim McNeill wrote:
Sorry, this is going to contain several ignorant assumptions. I've decided to write a Zope product, and my next step is deciding what it should do. Having knocked around a few poor ideas, I thought this might be the right place to look for suggestions. Perhaps someone out there
As a learning experience, you could pick up a product that has not been maintained for a long time, and update it.
It would be easier than writing from scratch, and many people would be happy, because there are many abandoned but very useful products out
there.
Milos Prudek
On ma, 21.07.2003 at 14:42 +0100, Jim Zoping wrote:
If you don't mind me asking: how would I go about 'taking over' a likely project - an email to the owner maybe?
You could try asking the owner, or maybe sending a patch. If those don't work, just fork. -- paavo. "joskus voi tää meno käydä ahdistavaksi kun on täällä muodostunut tavaksi muuttaa jokaisen elämän arvo rahaksi"
Paavo Parkkinen wrote:
On ma, 21.07.2003 at 14:42 +0100, Jim Zoping wrote:
If you don't mind me asking: how would I go about 'taking over' a likely project - an email to the owner maybe?
You could try asking the owner, or maybe sending a patch. If those don't work, just fork.
I agree. Polite e-mail, a patch, second polite e-mail, and if that's not answered, fork. Personally I do not have a specific project in mind. I am mildly surprised that noone has suggested anything by now... everyone's happy with current Zope products? -- Milos Prudek
for instance I've never managed to get CVS working under windows.
That shouldn't be so difficult .. you might try TortoiseCVS, it integrates with Windows Explorer, and I've heard a lot of positive things about it. (I'm on Linux ..) http://sourceforge.net/projects/tortoisecvs/ Sourceforge has instructions about CVS in general: http://sourceforge.net/docman/display_doc.php?docid=14033&group_id=1
I have had a rake about on sourceforge and freshmeat for Zope 'abandonware',
If I may suggest one: http://dev.zope.org/Members/tanepiper/ZMusicBase It's last been touched on 2001/05/14 and never went anywhere. I've been wanting a way to list and search my mp3's and ogg's in a flexible way .. I strongly recommend you look at http://dev.zope.org/Members/maxm/ for pointers as to how to structure a product properly. He has good examples. -- Jean Jordaan http://www.upfrontsystems.co.za
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