I used REQUEST as a brute force method to solve my problem, but figure there is a "better way." How do I gracefully call myDoc, from method1, without forcing into REQUEST? I have unsuccessfully tried aq_parent and aq_explicit, to get past the myMethods namespace. request path... Root.com/myFolder/myDoc/myEdit_script ROOT | myFolder | myDoc myMethods |method1 |method2 myEdit_script 'myEdit_script' includes <dtml-call "REQUEST.set('id',id)"> to force 'id' into REQUEST. and <dtml-with myMethods><dtml-var method1></dtml-with> 'method1' calls myDoc with <dtml-with REQUEST><dtml-var "_.getitem(_['id'],1)" html_quote></dtml-with> This was to avoid inheriting the 'id' of myMethods(Folder). myDoc could be anywhere in many subfolders. TFTH, Trevor