Sunday, April 24, 2005, 2:36:24 PM, Andreas Jung wrote:

--On Sonntag, 24. April 2005 14:18 Uhr +0200 Daniel Dekany <ddekany@freemail.hu> wrote:

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I have a Zope instance that uses utf-8 for everything. Since Python/Zope/etc practically doesn't support utf-8,

Please explain in which sense Zope would not support utf-8. For your information:

It can't sort strings alphabetically *anywhere* (concretely: the accented letters will go to the end of the list -- I guess because 0x80 is mathematically greater than the code of the US-ASCII characters). Kind of basic fundamental thing for a portal, or for text handling in general. I have asked here earlier how to solve it, but there was no answer that could be applied in practice (i.e. the answer was that I should write custom fixes for each individual products, and/or write a patch for Zope, and then maybe for Python... If so, this is equal of saying that UTF-8 is not supported yet).

Plone has UTF8 as default charset.

Aha. Then this is why this Plone site I should fix/maintain used UTF-8 everywhere. I believed it was a bad decision of my predecessor. (But then this problem is even more mysterious for me: *if* it doesn't working (yet), then why did the Plone authors chose that?)

In general Zope does not care much about encoded strings except for some conversions. Dealing with utf8 might be tricky in some cases but saying Zope does not support Utf-8 is wrong.

Believe me, I really hope I'm wrong. So how could I achieve that strings are sorted correctly? If it works for someone, how? (I have locale hu_HU.UTF-8 in zope.conf, I have even printed locale.getlocale(locale.LC_COLLATE) from products and external methods, and it was hu_HU.UTF-8. Note that at least on Python level sorting with hu_HU.ISO-8859-2 works... so I hope it would work with Plone as well.)

-aj

-- Best regards, Daniel Dekany