Re: [Zope] E-Commerce solution using Python and Zope.
Graham Chiu wrote:
these problems were fixed...it was only a problem initially caused by an upgrade.
Hi,
A couple of other things. On your front page, the non-hilighted 'demo' image is broken. If you go to www.adroit.com there are more broken images. You may not be seeing them if they're in your cache.
Also, your shopping cart is still broken.
Try this
1. select an image and place into cart. 2. go to check out 3. don't enter any details and click on buy 4. It then asks for credit card details - when it shouldn't really allow you this far 5. Then just keep backing out and the cart empties out :-(
I downloaded the latest checkout but haven't had to a chance to see where the bug is.
Ok...I found the bug that allows you to buy without entering any details I can fix it. Yes, after you have entered the checkout, you cannot back out. This was just overlooked...it will be fixed.
Otherwise it looks quite good, though I would prefer a solution that uses a relational database to save data. ( My own Zope Ecommerce site has about 24,000 items which would be a bit painful to add items using a through the web interface. )
We didn't use a relational database because it is way too is too complex for the intended use of the product. The idea behind e-tailer was to have an ecommerce product which is extremely simple and quick to setup. Setting up a shop is as simple as adding an e-tailer from the manage screen of a folder. It takes less that 5 minutes to have the shop fully setup and ready to go and accepting secure credit information. I don't know of any other ecommerce products that are that easy to setup. Besides, there are no easy ways to manipulate an SQL backend like we do with the e-tailer catalog. Things like adding and remove product properties, and giving properties to categories that all the products within that category will aquire, and having products and categories aquiring template styles, etc. This is all very difficult if not impossible to acheive with a flat relational database. We never intended for e-tailer to hold 24000 items! Although i dont see any problem with this. We have done some tests with over 50000 cataloged items in a zodb and searching was fine. I agree that adding 24000 items through a web interface would be painful ;-) We need to create a tool that can upload items from other storages so that this kind of process can be speed up. Having said all that, we are looking at possibly integrating a backend relational database. Any more feedback is greatly appreciated! ;-) terry
--- Graham Chiu http://www.compkarori.co.nz/index.php http://www.compkarori.com/dynamo -- The HomeBuilt Dynamo http://www.compkarori.com/dbase -- The dBase Bulletin
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-- Terry Kerr (terry@adroit.net) Adroit Internet Solutions Pty Ltd (www.adroit.net) Phone: (03) 9563 4461 Fax: (03) 9563 3856 Mobile: 0414 938 124
I'm have some difficuties with e-tailer and setting up mailhost. Where is the best location for mailhost. I have a directory structure like this: /a_la_cart/mailhost /a_la_cart/e-tailer Mailhost is in the a_la_cart directory with the e-tailer account. In "order management", when I enter the address to recieve orders, submit it, the management area does not update but errs out instead. I am trying to set-up multiple e-tailers and have them all send mail from each e-tailer. thanks. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Terry Kerr" <terry@adroit.net> To: "Graham Chiu" <anon_emouse@hotmail.com>; <zope@zope.org> Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2000 9:09 PM Subject: Re: [Zope] E-Commerce solution using Python and Zope.
Graham Chiu wrote:
these problems were fixed...it was only a problem initially caused by
an
upgrade.
Hi,
A couple of other things. On your front page, the non-hilighted 'demo' image is broken. If you go to www.adroit.com there are more broken images. You may not be seeing them if they're in your cache.
Also, your shopping cart is still broken.
Try this
1. select an image and place into cart. 2. go to check out 3. don't enter any details and click on buy 4. It then asks for credit card details - when it shouldn't really allow you this far 5. Then just keep backing out and the cart empties out :-(
I downloaded the latest checkout but haven't had to a chance to see where the bug is.
Ok...I found the bug that allows you to buy without entering any details I can fix it.
Yes, after you have entered the checkout, you cannot back out. This was just overlooked...it will be fixed.
Otherwise it looks quite good, though I would prefer a solution that
uses a
relational database to save data. ( My own Zope Ecommerce site has about 24,000 items which would be a bit painful to add items using a through the web interface. )
We didn't use a relational database because it is way too is too complex for the intended use of the product. The idea behind e-tailer was to have an ecommerce product which is extremely simple and quick to setup. Setting up a shop is as simple as adding an e-tailer from the manage screen of a folder. It takes less that 5 minutes to have the shop fully setup and ready to go and accepting secure credit information. I don't know of any other ecommerce products that are that easy to setup. Besides, there are no easy ways to manipulate an SQL backend like we do with the e-tailer catalog. Things like adding and remove product properties, and giving properties to categories that all the products within that category will aquire, and having products and categories aquiring template styles, etc. This is all very difficult if not impossible to acheive with a flat relational database.
We never intended for e-tailer to hold 24000 items! Although i dont see any problem with this. We have done some tests with over 50000 cataloged items in a zodb and searching was fine. I agree that adding 24000 items through a web interface would be painful ;-) We need to create a tool that can upload items from other storages so that this kind of process can be speed up.
Having said all that, we are looking at possibly integrating a backend relational database.
Any more feedback is greatly appreciated! ;-)
terry
--- Graham Chiu http://www.compkarori.co.nz/index.php http://www.compkarori.com/dynamo -- The HomeBuilt Dynamo http://www.compkarori.com/dbase -- The dBase Bulletin
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-- Terry Kerr (terry@adroit.net) Adroit Internet Solutions Pty Ltd (www.adroit.net) Phone: (03) 9563 4461 Fax: (03) 9563 3856 Mobile: 0414 938 124
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The e-tailer product has its own mailhost. You dont need to create another instance of a mailhost. Just enter in the standard mailhost parameters in Mailhost tab in the e-tailer management. "J. Michael Mc Kay" wrote:
I'm have some difficuties with e-tailer and setting up mailhost. Where is the best location for mailhost. I have a directory structure like this:
/a_la_cart/mailhost /a_la_cart/e-tailer
Mailhost is in the a_la_cart directory with the e-tailer account. In "order management", when I enter the address to recieve orders, submit it, the management area does not update but errs out instead.
I am trying to set-up multiple e-tailers and have them all send mail from each e-tailer.
thanks.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Terry Kerr" <terry@adroit.net> To: "Graham Chiu" <anon_emouse@hotmail.com>; <zope@zope.org> Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2000 9:09 PM Subject: Re: [Zope] E-Commerce solution using Python and Zope.
Graham Chiu wrote:
these problems were fixed...it was only a problem initially caused by
an
upgrade.
Hi,
A couple of other things. On your front page, the non-hilighted 'demo' image is broken. If you go to www.adroit.com there are more broken images. You may not be seeing them if they're in your cache.
Also, your shopping cart is still broken.
Try this
1. select an image and place into cart. 2. go to check out 3. don't enter any details and click on buy 4. It then asks for credit card details - when it shouldn't really allow you this far 5. Then just keep backing out and the cart empties out :-(
I downloaded the latest checkout but haven't had to a chance to see where the bug is.
Ok...I found the bug that allows you to buy without entering any details I can fix it.
Yes, after you have entered the checkout, you cannot back out. This was just overlooked...it will be fixed.
Otherwise it looks quite good, though I would prefer a solution that
uses a
relational database to save data. ( My own Zope Ecommerce site has about 24,000 items which would be a bit painful to add items using a through the web interface. )
We didn't use a relational database because it is way too is too complex for the intended use of the product. The idea behind e-tailer was to have an ecommerce product which is extremely simple and quick to setup. Setting up a shop is as simple as adding an e-tailer from the manage screen of a folder. It takes less that 5 minutes to have the shop fully setup and ready to go and accepting secure credit information. I don't know of any other ecommerce products that are that easy to setup. Besides, there are no easy ways to manipulate an SQL backend like we do with the e-tailer catalog. Things like adding and remove product properties, and giving properties to categories that all the products within that category will aquire, and having products and categories aquiring template styles, etc. This is all very difficult if not impossible to acheive with a flat relational database.
We never intended for e-tailer to hold 24000 items! Although i dont see any problem with this. We have done some tests with over 50000 cataloged items in a zodb and searching was fine. I agree that adding 24000 items through a web interface would be painful ;-) We need to create a tool that can upload items from other storages so that this kind of process can be speed up.
Having said all that, we are looking at possibly integrating a backend relational database.
Any more feedback is greatly appreciated! ;-)
terry
--- Graham Chiu http://www.compkarori.co.nz/index.php http://www.compkarori.com/dynamo -- The HomeBuilt Dynamo http://www.compkarori.com/dbase -- The dBase Bulletin
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-- Terry Kerr (terry@adroit.net) Adroit Internet Solutions Pty Ltd (www.adroit.net) Phone: (03) 9563 4461 Fax: (03) 9563 3856 Mobile: 0414 938 124
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-- Terry Kerr (terry@adroit.net) Adroit Internet Solutions Pty Ltd (www.adroit.net) Phone: +613 9563 4461 Fax: +613 9563 3856 Mobile: +61 414 938 124
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