Two newbie questions: port numbers, multi-user systems
That's a subject line that probably gets regulars groaning, I'll bet ;-) Anyway, I've just joined this list, after being convinced of the merits of Zope to both run websites and query ODBC databases. I've installed Zope on a NT box I run and have been experimenting with it and reading TFM (or rather, the Zope Book). It works fine, and I really like the interface and the heap of Zope features, but there are two things I need to sort out before I fully commit myself to using Zope: Port number in URLs ------------------- Because Zope runs off port 8080, this port number appears in URLs (eg http://language.hull.ac.uk:8080/). Like everyone else, I'd like this not to happen, but the solution in the Zope FAQ to FAQ 2.4 isn't suitable because the NT box is also running other web services (such as ASP scripts to query databases, eg as called from http://www.lang.ltsn.ac.uk/events/eventsdb.html), and if I change the port to 80 in the z2.py then of course Zope 'takes over' the server from IIS. I ran this problem past a web developers list, and the two main solutions suggested were: 1. Install Apache on the NT box, move IIS to another port, and set up a proxy in the Apache config. 2. Set up a second IP address for the NT box and host Zope on that. Neither of these are suitable (I won't bore everyone with the reasons), and it seems a bit strange to me that there isn't a simpler solution for integrating IIS with Zope. Does anyone have any suggestions? Zope on multi-user systems -------------------------- Here at Hull the main campus system is a multi-user Unix environment. I'm meeting the sysadmin of this tomorrow to talk about ships and sails and sealing wax, and I want to ask him to install Zope on the system so that I can run Zope-powered websites in ordinary user accounts. (I particularly want to move www.lang.ltsn.ac.uk, which runs from a user account, to Zope as the content's getting unmanageable.) Is it feasible to run such websites from user accounts? And what do I need to ask him to do, both in terms of installation and setting up Zope sites in user accounts? TIA for any help. I really do want to use Zope, both for my sake to reduce mine and my colleague's workload, and to support Open Source software in general. So far, though, I've spent over a day on the port number thing alone, and I'm worrying that I might have to spend more time learning and configuring Zope than I save. Cheers Fred PS: Where on earth does the name Zope come from? ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Fred Riley Email: f.h.riley@selc.hull.ac.uk Web Developer Tel: 01482 466316 C&IT Centre, Language Institute http://www.hull.ac.uk/php/ccsfhr/fhr.html University of Hull, Hull, UK ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
On Wed, Aug 29, 2001 at 03:40:35PM +0100, Fred Riley wrote:
Neither of these are suitable (I won't bore everyone with the reasons), and it seems a bit strange to me that there isn't a simpler solution for integrating IIS with Zope. Does anyone have any suggestions?
Assuming the IIS experts don't have anything comparable to Apache's mod_rewrite, you're stuck with either MS Proxy server (maybe) or something along the lines of http://www.zope.org/Members/brianh/iis_howto
Is it feasible to run such websites from user accounts? And what do I need to ask him to do, both in terms of installation and setting up Zope sites in user accounts?
Depending on load, the CGI version of Zope might work fine here. If you can do persistent CGI, it should scale with load similar to running Zope standalone. -- Mike Renfro / R&D Engineer, Center for Manufacturing Research, 931 372-3601 / Tennessee Technological University -- renfro@tntech.edu
Neither of these are suitable (I won't bore everyone with the reasons), and it seems a bit strange to me that there isn't a simpler solution for integrating IIS with Zope. Does anyone have any suggestions?
Look at PCGI first. You could also give this a try: http://www.wc.cc.va.us/dtod/zope/
PS: Where on earth does the name Zope come from?
http://www.zopezen.org/ZopeZen/SDot/987565617/index_html Cheers. -- Andy McKay.
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