John, smile for a while... :) I don't want to frustrate you, but installing it was the slightest problem... One thing that might be important for you: Zope _requires_ python ver. 1.5.2. AFAIK it will not work with any other version. so if you have python preinstalled on your machines, you're likely to run into problems because 1.5.2 is not the latest python release! On my Debian/Linux, I just grabbed the latest binary beta release for Linux (Beta6), and installed it according to the README. It was absolutely no problem. You might want to check your python interpreter and then report to the list if this was the problem. and next time: ask the list members earlier ;) I found all of these people to be extremely nice, they helped me an awful lot. Heiko. John Turner wrote:

Hello, All -

My apologies if this is a sore subject with list members.

Zope has been generating a lot of buzz, so I decided to check it out. I have been through the bugs list, the online docs, the docs distributed with Zope, and have searched this list, to no avail. Joining the list is my last resort.

Basically, after two weeks of trying, I have yet to get Zope to work. I have tried it on the following:

- redhat 6, compiled from source, on a system with a working Apache/PHP/MySQL configuration

- WinNT4 using the Zope Win32 binary release

- Win98 using the Zope Win32 binary release

- linux MIPS (Cobalt RaQ2 server) compiled from source, also with a working Apache/PHP/MySQL configuration

Nothing has worked so far. It is very frustrating. The docs do not coincide with the actual software (port numbers are wrong, installation steps that are listed in the docs don't happen when you install the software, etc).

It certainly hasn't been fun. From the traffic on this list, it looks like Zope is actually something that works, but so far, I have yet to see it. I'm still eager to try it, but my eagerness is fading fast! <grin> I'm an accomplished webmaster with experience on many platforms, and I've found my experiences so far with Zope to be extremely discouraging.

Are there any other docs that are better than those found at zope.org and distributed with the code? Is there an installation/troubleshooting FAQ other than the one at zope.org?

I've tried Zope as PCGI with an existing webserver, and also with the built-in HTTPServer. Starting up Zope with it's own server on Win32 gets nothing on either port 8080 or port 9763. The start.bat file is using the wrong python executable (python was already installed on the system). The problems go on and on, I will not bore you with them.

Any and all help/suggestions would be greatly appreciated. I realize my problems and issues may be trivial to most of you, judging by the qualities of the posts on this list that I've seen so far.

Thanks in advance for any help you can provide to this Zope newbie.

- John Turner

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