Hey all remember me? This is getting very weird, The code below now works, no changes. What would cause this code to one day work, then stop working and then again start working again. I am not only confused but concerned.... By the way I would like to thank those of you who have spent your valuable time looking into this problem, thank you very much. DR Original message below: Hey all Does anyone know why neither of these change the password, no errors are reported the page they are on renders fine. <dtml-call "REQUEST.set('name','TestVictim')"> <dtml-call "REQUEST.set('password','1')"> <dtml-call "REQUEST.set('confirm','1')"> <dtml-call "acl_users.manage_users(submit='Edit', REQUEST=REQUEST)"> <dtml-call "REQUEST.set('name','TestVictim')"> <dtml-call "REQUEST.set('password','1')"> <dtml-call "REQUEST.set('confirm','1')"> <dtml-call "acl_users.manage_users(submit='Change', REQUEST=REQUEST)"> DR