On Wed, 2001-08-22 at 06:28, David Shaw wrote:

I have been working on a Mac OS X package for Zope based off of the excellent binary distribution for MacOS X on zope.org. What makes mine different is (a) it includes ZEO, and (b) is has a native Mac GUI configuration tool front-end. You can see some screen shots here:

http://homepage.mac.com/dshaw/

David, Let me first say that this is very slick looking, nice work. However, I have a non-technical gripe, in that you are using the 'look-and-feel' of the zope.com website as well as the version of the logo that is Zope Corporation's, which would indicate (to me, who is not a ZC employee), that this was an 'official' zope utility. I'm guessing that it's not, because of your email address, and the URL. Now, I'm all for giving ZC credit where credit is due, but I am finding this troubling because as far as I can tell, your work was not sponsored by ZC, and therefore would be more properly identified with the Zope development community of which you are a part, not with ZC. I anticipated this possibility for confusion when I stated in my "Distinguishing between ZC and the community" thread earlier this month that the visual identities (ie: logos) of the community (at zope.org) and the company (at zope.com) were now far too similar, given the similarity of names. Since then the zope.org logo has received a 'community' tagline addition, but I don't think that this is sufficient to distinguish the entities (particularly since they overlap). Anyway, I guess I'm ranting a bit here, so I'll come up with a specific reccomendation in this case: switch the logo to the 3D mark currently used on zope.org, and switch the background to the solid blue-grey that the zope.org site uses. All this is, of course, only my own opinion. Cheers, Michael.