Is anybody out there who tryed to follow the tutorial "Using MetaFlow" on zopemag.com ? After reading the paper I thought MetaFlow is what I'm looking for. It is installed on Zope 2.5.0b3 (binary release, python 2.1, linux2-x86), python 2.1.1, linux2) The code is quite clear. The documentation is exemplary. But it simply doesn't work :-( My Session: create a MetaFlow Object in ZMI (Workflow) -> add two state (public,private) -> try to delete one of them (public) -> ERROR: BadRequest:addImage does not exist -> add two Transition (publish,hide) -> try to set any property of a Transition -> ERROR: KeyError: destination -> try to create a MetaFlow File (MyFile) WorkflowDefinition:Workflow -> ERROR: WorkflowError: no initial state in workflow Workflow Yes ... i read the doc about the initial state but where can I set it on ZMI ? -> give up in frustration -> went home not to write a more flaming post ;-) Michel ... that's not the way promoting Zope as a professional tool. Regards Andreas Heckel andreas@easyleading.org