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reading some of these HOWTOs, a naive user could happily configure apache as a public proxy

I don't think that only naive users follow Zope HOWTOs ...

im not suggesting only naive users follow them, im suggesting only naive users would trust them with something like apache security... (i consider myself a naive user in this respect) garry +-------------------------------------------+ Garry Steedman mailto:gs@styrax.com Styrax Associates http://www.styrax.com/ "The Good Man has no shape." +-------------------------------------------+