Martijn Faassen wrote:

Tom Deprez wrote:

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I'm not that familiar with Python, ASP etc. But, do keep in

mind that DTML

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was created to give non-programmers the oppertunity to get some nice webpages done. This idea should be kept the same. Perhaps one could create two scripting languages : one which looks the same as a programming language and one, with less capabilities, but which can be used by non-programmers. Thus creating levels-of-use in the scripting language

I think that this is the idea already! Right now, we have DTML documents/methods for HTML people. They can add some extra DTML tags to talk to SQL or things written in Python. SQL is there for the database people. Python is the full fledged programming language. for the programmers. You can write external methods in it, products, and apparently Digital Creations is working on a way to write Python safely from within the Zope management screens.

What currently happens perhaps too often is that people (the programmers) use rather heavy-duty DTML tricks to accomplish things, because using Python is too hard for those small things right now. [snip]

Yep, but we mostly do it because wrapping things in an External Method is more painful than writing the equivalent code in DTML. Do a mistake in writing the EM that you have to restart Zope. There is no provision for writing the EM Python code through the Zope management interface -- for this reason I'd like to see a Script Method object which has a text-area field where you can write Python code. It'd definitely ease the transition to Python whenever this is needed. -- Alexander Staubo http://www.mop.no/~alex/ "`This must be Thursday,' said Arthur to himself, sinking low over his beer, `I never could get the hang of Thursdays.'" --Douglas Adams, _The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy_