aha, Copy/Paste works, except when trying to copy an LDAPUserFolder object. That's what causes the run-away memory usage. So .. nevermind, APE is great! .. (uh, grape ape?) -- Brad Clements, bkc@murkworks.com (315)268-1000 http://www.murkworks.com (315)268-9812 Fax http://www.wecanstopspam.org/ AOL-IM: BKClements