I have been trying to convince my boss for a few months to try and build our database driven website in Zope. The first round they built it in ASP (www.gotfundraising.com) and now not only is it slow and difficult to manage but it does not work the way it is supposed to. So here I am trying to convince them to build it Zope (again). I have tried to talk about Open Source about functionality, about developer communities etc. Here is where his argument comes down to. 1) If you (me) get hit by a truck I will not be able to find anyone else to fix/build in Zope. 2) Can Zope scale to a big site and won't we just have to replace it with something else? 3) There is no technical support. 4) ASP is simple and a "standard" So I have put together a list of articles, sites and arguments but I would love if anyone out there who has dealt with this situation can send me more material (I have combed www.zope.org). Anything would be great, sites running Zope, examples of what you have done, experience with ASP vrs Zope, comparisons to bigger products (Vignette). This is one area where I really think Zope.org, Digital Creations and the user community need to strengthen which is the availability of information on the product, comparisons, etc. If Zope, like Linux is going to work and grow it needs to battle the FUD of all other products. Whatever I get back will go towards an article/posting on my member page of Zope.org. Thanks for all your help, JMA
Well, I think you can rule out at least #3 right away. 3. We (digital creations) provide for-fee support on Zope. A few other companies do too. as for the others: on #1. he's probably right at this point if we wants to hire in-house help :-) this will change, however. on #2. This is a strawman argument. How many hits does your site get in a peak hour? If it's fewer than 13000, and your site is about as dynamic as zope.org you can run it on a sub-$1200 P450. we are serving about 2 million hits a month on that box and gaining. on #4. I would have to agree that ASP is popular. it's not materially more simple than zope, however. Jatwood@bwanazulia.com wrote:
I have been trying to convince my boss for a few months to try and build our database driven website in Zope. The first round they built it in ASP (www.gotfundraising.com) and now not only is it slow and difficult to manage but it does not work the way it is supposed to. So here I am trying to convince them to build it Zope (again). I have tried to talk about Open Source about functionality, about developer communities etc. Here is where his argument comes down to.
1) If you (me) get hit by a truck I will not be able to find anyone else to fix/build in Zope. 2) Can Zope scale to a big site and won't we just have to replace it with something else? 3) There is no technical support. 4) ASP is simple and a "standard"
So I have put together a list of articles, sites and arguments but I would love if anyone out there who has dealt with this situation can send me more material (I have combed www.zope.org). Anything would be great, sites running Zope, examples of what you have done, experience with ASP vrs Zope, comparisons to bigger products (Vignette).
This is one area where I really think Zope.org, Digital Creations and the user community need to strengthen which is the availability of information on the product, comparisons, etc. If Zope, like Linux is going to work and grow it needs to battle the FUD of all other products.
Whatever I get back will go towards an article/posting on my member page of Zope.org.
Thanks for all your help, JMA
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