DISCUSS: Improving default content
Howdy folks. Amos and I have a task for the final 1.10 release to overhaul and improve the default database that ships with Zope. Zope should provide, out of the box, attractive content that is effective in introducing new users to Zope. Since we are on track to be in the RH 6 Powertools CD and the Debian distribution, the 1.10 database needs to be pretty good. Obviously there is an overlap to our in-progress overhaul of the zope.org site, where we want to make it very easy for people to quickly find out what Zope is and why they should invest time and energy in exploring it. Thus, I'm soliciting comments for how we can improve the default content. As a postscript, I'd like to reiterate our apologies for our drop in attention over the last two weeks. We really are fighting off the disaster of getting screwed by our InfiNet, our (now previous) ISP. Our entire office is dialed up over one modem as one IP address. Hacking around this has consumed much of the engineering time around here :^(. --Paul Paul Everitt Digital Creations paul@digicool.com 540.371.6909
How about shipping it with a 'frozen' copy of the zope site in a folder somewhere, with the downloads stripped out? Kind of like the way the O'Reilly python CD contained a copy of www.python.org. People without good net access could have a good zope reference, and they could also see how a nice site has been implemented. (Plus the zope site is content that already exists, so it'll involve less manpower than otherwise!). The Zope dowload is already about 4 meg, so unless the DTML for the site is *huge*, it probably won't bloat the size of the distribution by too big a percentage. Also, if you're thinking distribution on CDs, I can't imagine them objecting to this little bit extra... Redhat for one boasts about the size of the content on their cds! ;) Just my two pence worth..! Cheers, A.
-----Original Message----- From: zope-admin@zope.org [mailto:zope-admin@zope.org]On Behalf Of Paul Everitt Sent: Friday, February 12, 1999 11:10 AM To: 'zope@zope.org' Subject: [Zope] DISCUSS: Improving default content
Howdy folks. Amos and I have a task for the final 1.10 release to overhaul and improve the default database that ships with Zope.
Zope should provide, out of the box, attractive content that is effective in introducing new users to Zope. Since we are on track to be in the RH 6 Powertools CD and the Debian distribution, the 1.10 database needs to be pretty good.
Obviously there is an overlap to our in-progress overhaul of the zope.org site, where we want to make it very easy for people to quickly find out what Zope is and why they should invest time and energy in exploring it.
Thus, I'm soliciting comments for how we can improve the default content.
As a postscript, I'd like to reiterate our apologies for our drop in attention over the last two weeks. We really are fighting off the disaster of getting screwed by our InfiNet, our (now previous) ISP. Our entire office is dialed up over one modem as one IP address. Hacking around this has consumed much of the engineering time around here :^(.
--Paul
Paul Everitt Digital Creations paul@digicool.com 540.371.6909
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Paul Everitt wrote:
Zope should provide, out of the box, attractive content that is effective in introducing new users to Zope. Since we are on track to be in the RH 6 Powertools CD and the Debian distribution, the 1.10 database needs to be pretty good.
What is the timeframe for getting into these distributions? Michael Bernstein.
I follow the debian-devel mailing list some. As far as I know, debian's in deep-freeze for the 2.1 release (codename slink) and is barley accepting bug-fixes, let alone new packages, for that release. So, unless someone at DC knows otherwise, I suspect it'll miss this release and go into potato. Not that that's a problem for those of us with good net access. Being able to upgrade individual packages almost completely painlessly is part of what Debian's all about, anyway. Ross Michael Bernstein wrote:
Paul Everitt wrote:
Zope should provide, out of the box, attractive content that is effective in introducing new users to Zope. Since we are on track to be in the RH 6 Powertools CD and the Debian distribution, the 1.10 database needs to be pretty good.
What is the timeframe for getting into these distributions?
Michael Bernstein.
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