O'Reilly to publish Zope Book
Greetings, I'm pleased to announce that Dan York, the Linuxcare Certification Program Manager, and myself, have come to an agreement with O'Reilly and Associates to author a Zope book. The book will be published under a not-yet agreed upon Open Content license. This means that during the evolution of the book, you will be able to view and download the material for your own information needs. We hope that this also means you will kindly help point out mistakes or gaping holes in the material before it is printed by the publisher. One of our goals is that this book will benefit from the same community involvement that has made Zope such a great success. Since before I started working at Digital Creations, I've had a Zope book in mind. Of course, I wasn't the first to think of it; Paul and Hadar had in mind a 'Bobo Book' (Bobook?) for a while. My original material was called 'The Zen of Zope' and was defiantly high-fiber, developer oriented material. I met Dan York at the LinuxExpo this year. I gave him a tour through Zope and he showed me the kinds of things that Linuxcare was doing to support the linux community. When he found out I was working on a book, he was interested immediately in co-authoring it. Dan has published books with Que in the past, and is key in authoring training and certification materials for linux and linux courseware. Dan and I began working on a 'new' outline to present to publishers. When we started talking to publishers, we realized that our outline was much too complex, and that what Zope really needed was a gentle introductory book. Advanced or reference books may come later, but first there must be a simple, introductory book that will stand the test of time and multiple releases of Zope! This is where Paul stepped in, he helped take our outline and bring it down to the level that it needs to be at. I'm hoping that lots of community members will have a hand in the final product, even if their contribution is just a comment on the work. Comments will be strongly encouraged! There is no set title or release date for the book. It will not be any time soon, of course, and we will give everyone several months warning before publication time. O'Reilly cannot take advanced orders for books, so please don't contact them with your credit-card in hand, the people on the order lines won't even know what your talking about. ;) -Michel
(removing zope-announce to keep my spam to a minimum :) Congratulations on reaching the agreement! An O'Reilly Zope book would be a wonderful thing. You seem to have left out an important detail in your announcement... what will the cover animal be? (Zebra? It's a swift, powerful animal. The mixture of black and white stripes symbolizes interoperability. And it starts with a Z :) Kevin ----- Original Message ----- From: Michel Pelletier <michel@digicool.com> To: <zope@zope.org>; <zope-announce@zope.org> Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 1999 12:03 PM Subject: [Zope] O'Reilly to publish Zope Book
I'm pleased to announce that Dan York, the Linuxcare Certification Program Manager, and myself, have come to an agreement with O'Reilly and Associates to author a Zope book.
Kevin Dangoor wrote:
(removing zope-announce to keep my spam to a minimum :)
Congratulations on reaching the agreement! An O'Reilly Zope book would be a wonderful thing.
Yes, indeed... waiting for the pre-order option!
You seem to have left out an important detail in your announcement... what will the cover animal be? (Zebra? It's a swift, powerful animal. The mixture of black and white stripes symbolizes interoperability. And it starts with a Z :)
You're into something there, except for the fact that a Zebra has a big butt ;-) Sorry, but I had to point it out. -- Best regards / Mvh., Steen Suder sysadm kollegie6400.dk OpenSource --- Sign of the time
Steen Suder wrote:
Kevin Dangoor wrote:
(removing zope-announce to keep my spam to a minimum :)
Congratulations on reaching the agreement! An O'Reilly Zope book would be a wonderful thing.
Yes, indeed... waiting for the pre-order option!
It'll be a while. -Michel
O'Reilly Zope book. Yay Hooray!. Congratulations and good luck.
You seem to have left out an important detail in your announcement... what will the cover animal be? (Zebra? It's a swift, powerful animal. The mixture of black and white stripes symbolizes interoperability. And it starts with a Z :)
Zebra = excellent. Yes please. [..shame about that woodrat on 'Learning Python' = big mistake IMO. Not a good sell and it drives nuts every time I pick it up.. one of these days I am going to paste my own [Monty]Python BigFoot descending upon a dont'tread_on_me Snake on the cover] - Jason
On Tue, 2 Nov 1999, Jason Cunliffe wrote:
O'Reilly Zope book. Yay Hooray!. Congratulations and good luck.
Indeed!
Zebra = excellent. Yes please.
[..shame about that woodrat on 'Learning Python' = big mistake IMO. Not a good sell and it drives nuts every time I pick it up.. one of these days I am going to paste my own [Monty]Python BigFoot descending upon a dont'tread_on_me Snake on the cover]
Sorry you don't like the wood rat. I've grown fond of it myself. I'd suggest folks keep the suggestions to the animals in private email to Michel. I would also like to caution y'all about thinking that this is a democratic process. There are lots of factors influencing what animal is chosen for an ORA book, some beyond the author's control. --david ascher PS: I wanted the 'killer rabbit' myself, but it was already taken by some other book...
Steen Suder wrote:
Kevin Dangoor wrote:
(removing zope-announce to keep my spam to a minimum :)
Congratulations on reaching the agreement! An O'Reilly Zope book would be a wonderful thing.
Yes, indeed... waiting for the pre-order option!
You seem to have left out an important detail in your announcement... what will the cover animal be? (Zebra? It's a swift, powerful animal. The mixture of black and white stripes symbolizes interoperability. And it starts with a Z :)
You're into something there, except for the fact that a Zebra has a big butt ;-)
Sorry, but I had to point it out.
Well...I do recall a discussion in the list where we were talking about how to pronounce Zope and the letter 'z', I had mentioned that Zope sounds like a cross between a Zebra and an Antelope. That would surely fix the big-butt problem, wouldn't it? :-) Of course, I don't know how distinguished an antelope butt is. Any artistic ones out there care to try to draw such a beast? Cheers... Bruce -- Bruce Elrick, Ph.D. Saltus Technology Consulting Group Personal: belrick@home.com IBM Certified Specialist Business: belrick@saltus.ab.ca ADSM, AIX Support, RS/6000 SP, HACMP
Kevin Dangoor wrote:
(removing zope-announce to keep my spam to a minimum :)
Congratulations on reaching the agreement! An O'Reilly Zope book would be a wonderful thing.
You seem to have left out an important detail in your announcement... what will the cover animal be? (Zebra? It's a swift, powerful animal. The mixture of black and white stripes symbolizes interoperability. And it starts with a Z :)
Suggestions accepted, zebra is cool... i was thinking of a laden european swallow... -Michel
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