I stumbled, absolutely by accident, on a HowTo called "The difference between 'foo' and foo." that held a much more elegant key to this problem I've been describing and fighting with the last two days. It turns out this will work just fine: <dtml-var "_[pagetoget]"> where pagetoget is the name of the script object that generates the string that is the URL I want to load at this point in the page (or the name of a file or object to be rendered at this point in the page). I did a search for _.render on Zope.org in hopes of finding some documentation for that builtin, didn't find any, but did find this little tidbit. Arrrggghhhh! -- Dan Shafer, Author-Consultant http://www.danshafer.com http://www.shafermedia.com