[Grok-dev] the website, nouns and verbs

Sebastian Ware sebastian at urbantalk.se
Thu Jan 3 15:47:32 EST 2008


I still miss the verb "Download" that was available in original design.

   http://www.urbantalk.se/DEVELOPER/grok_3

Mvh Sebastian

3 jan 2008 kl. 20.35 skrev Martijn Faassen:

> Hi there,
>
> Here I'm proposing some decisions on nouns and verbs for the website.
>
> The Grok approaches matches the Ruby-on-Rails or Plone approach:
>
> * our homepage has bunch of verbs to draw people in. The homepage is  
> intended to draw people in.
>
> * our underlying structure and the rest of the navigation uses  
> nouns. Those are the tabs in plone.org, or the navigation bar on the  
> top of rubyonrails.org
>
> Peter Bengtsson elsethread mentions that currently the verbs go to  
> confusing places. That's because we actually need to *write* pages  
> for the verbs. These pages don't need to be long but can point to  
> existing documentation if we have that already. They're entry- 
> points. Preferably the URLs and the titles of the page should match  
> the verbs, so 'Evaluate' will go to /evaluate which says "Evaluate  
> Grok".
>
> Here's a minimalistic list of what these pages should be like:
>
> Evaluate:
>
> should point to a page that leads the developer to the following  
> pages:
>
> http://plone.grok.quintagroup.com/about/why-grok
>
> http://plone.grok.quintagroup.com/about/grok-for-zope-3-developers
>
> and probably a reworked version of:
>
> http://plone.grok.quintagroup.com/about
>
> [it's not good by the way that the 'About' section doesn't point to  
> those pages except through the navigation!]
>
> Learn:
>
> should have a page which leads people to the tutorial first and  
> foremost, and then points to the rest of the documentation. It could  
> offer some tips on how to ask questions too (mailing list, irc)
>
> Develop:
>
> An prose-overview of the most important documentation resources.
>
> Participate:
>
> A prose overview of how you can contribute, include stuff on how we  
> really *want* people to tell us stuff, like, "Grok doesn't work?  
> Don't be quiet! We want to know!"
>
> The homepage needs to be more catchy. We definitely need the caveman  
> in the title. We want to give an open, simple, playful impression,  
> and I think we should watch out for enterprise-speak.
>
> We also need the caveman on the homepage. The caveman is at least  
> half the reason for our success! Bring in the caveman! ME GROK WANT  
> SEE CAVEMAN :)
>
> Anyway, I'll go try see whether I can actually use Plone. Hm, I  
> think I need some permissions, as I can't seem to see any actions.  
> Also my home page doesn't appear to work. Help! :)
>
> Regards,
>
> Martijn
>
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