[Grok-dev] [OT] Marketing: noSQL?

[Jim Pharis]

This year at the NoSQL conference in New York I asked the organizers the
same question, "how come ZODB didn't get any love?". I think the general
impression is ZODB isn't a standalone solution and its tied to Zope.

I think getting some ZODB love on the NoSQL website is a good start. But
that would just peek the potential users interest. Then they go to the
homepage for ZODB, http://wiki.zope.org/ZODB/FrontPage for more indepth
information. The site is on the Zope wiki and the page almost presents ZODB
as an afterthought for Zope rather then a technology on the forefront of
NoSQL. There's no clear message conveyed, "this is how wonderful ZODB is,
and its not just for Zope".

I think in order to make ZODB in eye catching strength of Grok it first
needs to be presented as a solution to the general Python community.

Just my thoughts...

- Jim

On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 9:48 AM, Roger Erens <roger.erens at e-s-c.biz> wrote:

> On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 15:04, Martijn Faassen <faassen at startifact.com>
> wrote:
> > Hi there,
> >
> > Toni Mueller wrote:
> >
> >> I'm aware that this is not the right forum to talk about this, but due
> >> to lack of a better place, I'd like to throw the idea out here into the
> >> open:
> >
> > I think this is the right place to talk about marketing Grok.
> >
> >> Recent hype has it to mention databases that don't require/offer SQL.
> >> See http://nosql-database.org/ for an overview. From my perspective,
> >> the ZODB would fit "perfectly" into this scheme of a database that has
> >> no SQL, right?
> >
> > Good point. Last year at Pycon there was a lot of buzz about NoSQL.
> > CouchDB, MongoDB, Cassandra, etc. Nobody mentioned the ZODB, except
> > Guido in an object relational mapper panel discussion and he was
> > criticizing it (not unfair criticism). I was so pleased *someone* had
> > mentioned it I rudely interrupted him to cheer. :)
> >
> >> If you think this way and can say something meaningful
> >> about it, it would be great if you could add an appropriate entry to
> >> this site. If you can't, but suspect someone else can, please notify
> >> him or her about this issue.
> >
> > Right, hm, this is one for the website folks. Please reply and show
> > you're paying attention. We got the documentation folks organizing
> > already...
>
> ...
>
> I could send a message to that website's owner, Prof. Stefan Edlich.
> Please help me fill in the blanks before I contact him:
>
> API:
>  Python 2.4.2 and later
>
> Protocol:
>  blank?
>
> Query Method:
>  blank?
>
> Replication:
>  ZEO?
>
> Written in:
>  Python
>
> Concurrency:
>  blank?
>
> Misc:
>  something more about ZEO?
>
> Links: e.g. Books, Talks, Presentations
>  https://launchpad.net/zodb
>  http://docs.zope.org/zodb/
>  http://wiki.zope.org/ZODB/FrontPage
>
> Website:
>  http://pypi.python.org/pypi/ZODB3
>
> General remark about the nosql-database.org website:
>  SQL is not the only way to implement a relational DB:
> SQL != RDBMS
>
> Roger
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