[Zope-CMF] CMFStaging skins

Mon Nov 17 19:01:34 EST 2003

Hi Adrien,

You could definitely achieve what you are trying to do with Zope/CMF/Plone.
There are 2 ways I could think of that you could do it:

1. Using CMFDeployment which 'exports' the live version of your site to
static HTML.

or

2. Using CMFExample (if you need the dynamic features). I don't really know
a lot about the product, but there is a working example. At
http://demo.plone.org/ the content for a site is contained (and managed)
through a standard Plone interface. At http://emerging.plone.org/ you can
see the 'live' version of the site. It certainly seems to be what you are
after.

Regards,

Anton Hughes

Data Administrator
Childhood Determinants of Adult Health Project
Menzies Centre for Population Health Research
Private Bag 23, Hobart Tasmania 7001

Email: anton.hughes at utas.edu.au <mailto:anton.hughes at utas.edu.au> 
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-----Original Message-----
From: Adrien Driver [mailto:Adrien.Driver at infotech.monash.edu.au]
Sent: Monday, 17 November 2003 3:31 PM
To: Gregoire Weber
Cc: zope-cmf at zope.org
Subject: Re: [Zope-CMF] CMFStaging skins

Hi

Gregoire Weber wrote:

>Hi,
>
>do you use with Plone Staging from the collective
(http://sourceforge.net/projects/collective/)?
>
>  
>
No, but I've downloaded and installed Plone Staging and have started 
playing with it - it is somewhat more advanced then what I was trying to 
get working  :-))  Are there any notes on Plone Staging?

>There should be a script doing all the necessary installs for you.
>Alan showed that to me at the Castle Sprint in Autria.
>
>If you like to elaborate your own solution take in accont that
>there is some work underway to integrate staging and versioning
>with the next Plone Version (Plone 2.1).
>
>  
>
This staging and versioning is something I was looking for.  However 
while I'm after a web based interface for staff to create/edit content 
I'm having some difficulty with the concept of the "portal site" (in 
either Plone or the CMF).   For editing /staging  purposes I don't 
really have any issues but the live version (production or a copy of 
this folder)  I would like independent.  That is no ability to log on to 
create/edit when viewed (possibly done via some other URL link).

For my school (the project I'm working on) I need to implement new 
Monash designed templates (which I will have to modify and add via skins 
etc).  Also I wish to implement the author-review type workflow (which 
Plone staging offers) but at different levels of the site (which I 
assume I can still do with user folder definitions).  This may affect 
the member role - I'm not sure.  I would like to use LDAP for the users 
and groups - does CMFLDAP work with Plone?  Can it be used with Plone 
staging?       

Part of my scope is to find an open source CMS that can achieve a number 
of objectives.  The technical objectives are mainly a staging / live 
scenario with versioning / workflow and web interface arrangements.  
After looking at Zope over the past two weeks I have learned and come 
across a vast amount of material, and my learning curve has been steep. 

Obviously something like this (to some extent) can be done but I seem to 
be stumbling from one thing (different products) to another and not 
getting anything concrete.   Can anyone offers any suggestions?  Am I on 
the right track with Zope (and Plone)?  After some exposure to OpenCMS 
and Midgard Zope does look better.

Cheers

Adrien

>See my comment at the top of the page to:
>
>   http://plone.org/development/current/projects/PloneStaging
>  
>
Thanks - have done.

Adrien

>Gregoire
>
>At 14:49 13.11.2003 +1100, Adrien Driver wrote:
>  
>
>>Hi 
>>Dieter Maurer wrote:
>>
>>    
>>
>>>Adrien Driver wrote at 2003-11-9 14:39 +1100:
>>>      
>>>
>>>>...
>>>>I have a site setup via the CMF but can't figure > our exactly how to
add the skins.
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>I expect the term "skin" is used in the instruction as
>>>a component namespace (used as a layer in the skin definition).
>>>If this is right, you would go to "portal_skins --> Contents"
>>>and there use the "Add list" ("Select type to add...") to
>>>add a "Filesystem Directory View".
>>>This will present you a "Directory" select box.
>>>I expect you to find "CMFStaging/skins/staging"
>>>and "CMFStaging/skins/tidy". Add them both (in two
>>>separate "add filesystem directory view" operation).
>>>Then go to "portal_skins --> properties" and add
>>>"staging" and "tidy" to each skin you are using (as additional
>>>layers).
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>Thanks - that was what I needed to do.  The instructions I'm following are
from another posting and are a little vague for me.  I've spent a day or so
trying to figure out how it all works but with no result (apart from a
headache or two!!!).   The instruction mention that "you'll need to add a
GUI around all this stuff to call the underlying APIs to do what you want.
There's no demo GUI.  Look at the test code".   I'm no Python expert (as I'm
trying to learn all this as I'm trying to develop this project) so the code
is somewhat difficult to follow!  I have ZopeVersionControl and the various
CMFStaging tools added to my plain CMF test site but can't figure out where
to start next. 
>>The workflow tool, noted as repository aware, appears to have no workflow
defined.   Obviously I need to add states and transitions to allow the flow
of objects to the various stages as part of the CMFStaging but again where
to start.  Do I spend time on this to only discover I should have done
something else first etc.....
>>
>>    
>>

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