[Zope-Coders] Re: [Zope-Checkins] CVS: Zope/doc - CHANGES.txt:1.535.2.107

[Chris McDonough]

FWIW, the change is only effective under debug mode.  IMHO, folks that
are running their production Zope sites in debug mode have more to worry
about than not starting up because a product is broken.

That said, I can understand that the policy of "no behavioral changes"
should be enforced wherever possible. In this case, I'd like to get a
sense of whether more people think exception to the policy adds more
value than it does damage before reverting.

WRT changes to Zope that break the policy, my attitude has always been
"asking for forgiveness is better than asking for permission", as asking
for permission often elicits silence, while asking for forgiveness
almost always brings about useful discussion (e.g. this one ;-)  It
always seems more effective than wringing our collective hands over
whether to make the change or not.

- C


On Sat, 2003-05-17 at 12:36, Andreas Jung wrote:
> So what is the sense  to have a policy?  ..and what are the rules to break 
> the policy ? :-)
> 
> -aj
> 
> --On Samstag, 17. Mai 2003 12:16 Uhr -0400 Jens Vagelpohl <jens@zope.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> > keep the change in 2.6. i have been bitten by the broken import many
> > times myself.
> >
> > a policy that is enforced for that policy's sake even if there would be
> > obvious great benefits in breaking it on occasion is not only worthless,
> > it is an impediment.
> >
> > jens
> >
> >
> >
> > On Saturday, May 17, 2003, at 11:03 US/Eastern, Chris McDonough wrote:
> >
> >> It does indeed change the behavior.  I am willing to change it back,
> >> but
> >> the fact that the DWIM of product import has caused many of us at ZC
> >> hours-long debugging marathons during the running of a test that
> >> invokes
> >> the product import mechanism (e.g. through zopectl/zctl) makes it a
> >> desirable change.  I'd like to hear what others think.
> >>
> >> I have made the change on the trunk as well.
> >>
> >> - C
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sat, 2003-05-17 at 02:32, Andreas Jung wrote:
> >>> Chris,
> >>>
> >>> why was this change made on the 2.6 branch? This is not a  bugfix
> >>> and it
> >>> changes
> >>> the behaviour of 2.6 installations. The change should be made on the
> >>> trunk
> >>> only.
> >>>
> >>> -aj
> >
> >
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