[Zope-Coders] Upcoming releases

[Ken Manheimer]

On Tue, 28 Sep 2004, Tim Peters wrote:

> [Tim Peters]
> >> Heh.  I did check it in, but Zope-Checkins decided I wasn't allowed to
> >> post to that list ...
> 
> [Ken Manheimer]
> > That was my fault.
> 
> Of course it was.  I was just too polite to point that out <wink>.

Ah, i should have realized - substitute "but Zope-Checkins decided" ==> 
"but That-Bozo-Ken decided".

> > [...]
> 
> I don't expect it's worth worrying much about.  I later subscribed to
> zope-checkins under the address it sent the "moderator hold" message
> to, and then disabled mail delivery on the new subscription.  That's
> not unique -- I'm probably subscribed to a dozen Zope mailing lists
> now under two (or three) addresses.

Well, don't fret that your effort was wasted - my *real* plan was to get 
the glory of an additional uncle timbot subscription to zope-checkins - 
and my nefarious scheme has succeeded.  Your subscriptions all belong to 
us!

> And if you can discard 100 pieces of spam per day that way, I might
> even notice the slight dip in my spam load <wink>.

(FWIW, i intended to get to the point where we'll be discarding rather 
than holding, once i'd arrived at some reasonable scheme.)

> > [...]
> > headers, we can add one if not).  The drawback is that it would discard
> > incidental comments, which can be valuable - typically, "whoops, did you
> > really mean to do that?" responses, useful on a checkins list.  Those
> 
> I think they're more useful on the associated -dev list.  I expect to
> see (only) automated checkin msgs on a -checkins list, and fiddle my
> email priorities accordingly.  On the Python project, python-checkins
> msgs have
> 
> Reply-To: python-dev at python.org

Tres thinks so, too.  I'm convinced.  Next opportunity i'll craft it.

> set, after several important threads were "lost" on the mostly-ignored
> checkins list.  The Zope lists appear similar:  zope-dev has 10x as
> many subscribers as zope-checkins, and even then it looks like half of
> the latter have delivery disabled.  IOW, checkins lists appear mostly
> ignored on all projects.

"Many eyes - shut."

Regardless, it'll be easy enough to close the spam hole for the few loyal 
readers...

Tnx.
ken