[Zope-dev] RE: [Zope] Barriers to Zope popularity: Part 1:wysiwig editing

[Dody Gunawinata]

It is true. A really wicked and powerful web application server. No
doubt about that.

Zope for dummies (a book or something similar, not Zope lite version
:0)..for beginner (not always for beginner developer)..especially
for Windows based developers (A lot of them here, too many to be ignored
if we are talking about market share)-ASP,CF etc..And an awful
lots of company uses ASP (free and Microsoft) for Intranet..And if
you've known just VBScript, you'd think Zope is only for rocket
scientist.
And students as well very important, because many would use just the
awful Perl for CGI processing..(Perl is almost a standard in many unis).

'Dummies' are the majorities, and I think its Zope's best interest to
lure them. This is we want more people to use Zope. The best product
doesn't always equate to market share. The one that people can use and
understand will (doesn't apply to Microsoft:O)..
My point still is the good ol' documentations for beginners the way to
go, if we are talking about increasing market share. Let's do something
about it.

Dody


Martijn Pieters wrote:
> >
> >Much of the documentation is designed with *advance* developers in mind.
> >It's time for Zope for Dummies.
> >
> >Dody
> 
> What many people forget here is that Zope is a Web Application Platform. It
> is, first and foremost, designed as a framework for applications.
> 
> All the DTML Methods and Folder objects and whatnot, are standard objects
> to help you design an interface, they are part of and build upon the Zope
> framework. Together with the ZODB, security, the web interface, the
> marshalling of variable types and RDBMS integration, Zope makes one heck of
> a Web Application Platform.
> 
> Zope was designed for Web Application Developers, not designers. The
> documentation follows this design. I actually feel that dummies should stay
> away from Zope. Frontpage is for dummies.
> 
> As far as DTML editing goes: DTML was designed to put a face on the
> application, not so much as to be used on its own. DTML is very powerful
> for this, but its features also make it unsuitable for WISYWIG editing.
> 
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