[Zope-dev] Re: [RfC] Removal of old stuff in Zope 2.10

[Florent Guillaume]

Andreas Jung wrote:
> for next release we plan to replace several parts with the corresponding 
> components from Zope 3 (e.g. ZPT´). Philipp is working on a proposal on 
> that issue. In addition I would like to get rid of some old stuff that 
> is no longer maintained and buggy:
> 
> 
> - ZopeTutorial (could be ripped off without implications and made available
>   for download on zope.org)

+1

> - HelpSys - from a programmers view pretty much useless and not very
>   helpful. I consider to replace it with something more useful (not sure
>   we can re-use apidoc from Zope 3 in some way, perhaps the inclusion
>   of Dieter's Docfinder might be more useful for programmers)

+0, it would be useful to not use the explanation texts that are in the help 
system, or at list check that other material (docstrings, zope book) are at 
least as comprehensive.

> - Gadfly(DA) - do we really need this? We discussed this already. In my
>   opinion the purpose of Gadfly is only educational but nothing that one
>   really needs or uses for production. It could be removed and made
>   available for download on zope.org.

Gadfly should go, but OTOH have sqlite in its place would still provide SQL 
inside Zope and that could be a good plus.

> And my favourite enemy in Zope: ZClasses :-) I would like to mark them 
> _clearly_ as an obsolete feature (DeprecationWarning, Warnings in the 
> ZMI and the Zope Book). I _don't_ propose to remove them at some point 
> but ppl should be aware that they are using one of the most-scary 
> components in Zope (please no further discussion about the pros and cons 
> of ZClasses..this discussion took already place already a bunch of times 
> on the list).

+1 as I don't use ZClasses and don't intend to maintain them.

Florent

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