[Zope-dev] Re: [Z3lab] Zope Corporation's Initial Reaction on the ZF Comments

[Martijn Faassen]

Hadar Pedhazur wrote:
[clarifications and opinions]

Hey,

I just wanted to chip in that:

* I'm very happy a foundation has been announced. This is what I and 
others advocated for, starting in earnest after the castle sprint last 
year. This is a major step in the right direction. Thank you Zope 
Corporation! I also wish to thank Nuxeo in their active role in taking 
this further.

Some points I think we all agree on:

* We all agree that the Foundation should be vendor-neutral. Those of us 
in business, we're competing and cooperating at the same time, and the 
Foundation will need to be on the balance.

* We all agree that the Foundation should be about more than just 
vendors. To those of us who are independent, the Foundation needs to 
listen to their voice as well, not just the vendors. We have extremely 
significant contributors in the community who are vendor neutral. I need 
to mention only the authors of the two Zope 3 books currently published.

Now on a more personal note:

* I am confident that Zope Corporation will do the right thing. Time and 
time again I've found that Zope Corporation does listen. Let's all not 
forget this.

* From my perspective as a company co-owner: the Foundation should be 
vendor-friendly. We should accept that one of the reasons it exists is 
to help vendors sell Zope better. ("its future is assured in a 
foundation with N members"). This self interest is fine, as long as we 
can all cooperate in a fair way. (a state of self-interested cooperation 
is ideal, I'd say, in fact)

* It's important for all parties involved to reach clarity about the 
relationship of the Zope Foundation with existing foundations and 
initiatives within the Zope community. We dont want uncertainty and 
confusion and we want to *stimulate* initiatives by the community. The 
community is after all one of our greatest resources.

* From my perspective as a developer: I hope politics won't get into the 
way of development too much. We'll inevitably and necessarily have 
politics in the period leading up to the creation of the Foundation, to 
ensure everybody's interests are being looked after. We'll have some 
more after the Foundation has been formed. Let's try to stay out of the 
developers' hair. Many of them don't want to be involved in politics or 
cannot be on a personal basis as they work for a company. We don't want 
them worried or pressurized by all of this. Again, the community is one 
of our greatest resources.

Regards,

Martijn