[Zope-dev] Re: [Zope3-dev] RFC: Reunite Zope 2 and Zope 3 in the source code repository

Jean-Marc Orliaguet jmo at ita.chalmers.se
Thu Nov 24 05:32:38 EST 2005


Martijn Faassen wrote:

> ...
> Outside the Zope community Zope 3 doesn't have such a great image 
> indeed. It's either ignored, or it's actively rejected. There is a lot 
> of competition with other frameworks. Zope 3 is currently not doing 
> particularly well in this competition, something we need to fix, but 
> that's another topic for another thread. It doesn't change that 
> inviting in the Zope 2 developers is most effective thing we can do at 
> present to grow the Zope 3 community.
>
> Regards,
>
> Martijn


Hi,

It is a bit like this: the zope2 community wants the zope3 technology 
and zope3 wants the zope2 community.

I think the question about the technology should be treated as such on a 
technical level, by bridging the technical gap (Five, common 
repositories, writing tutorials for zope2 developers, collaborating on 
common modules, adapting zope2 concepts like TTW editing to Zope3 but 
without reproducing the zope2 skin and templates mess, etc).

But the question about the communities involves more complicated 
aspects, i.e. marketing issues, licenses, competition, strategies, etc. 
The repository is not the answer. This has to be solved on a higher 
level, Zope Foundation, updated ZPL license, ... where a social contract 
is agreed on.

So let's not pretend that everything can be solved on a technological 
level even though lots of it can ..

Regards
/JM


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