[Zope-dev] Re: ZClassNG proposal makes Archetypes Easy.

[Andreas Jung]

--On 23. April 2007 03:57:25 -0700 Martin Aspeli <optilude at gmx.net> wrote:

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> Chris Withers wrote:
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>> Martin Aspeli wrote:
>>> Plone development with Archetypes is not painful. Hundreds of
>>> developers  do it, so it can't be that bad.
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>> Urm, that's not true. Archetypes is the single most painful component to
>> use from Plone...
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>> It's also the biggest source of frustration I have with Plone.
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> Okay. Let me rephrase. Most people don't find it painful, and a huge
> number of developers are being very productive with Archetypes. I know
> you hate it Chris, but you are in the minority.
>

I have to second that. The latest versions of AT are pretty much stable and 
usable. AT is no longer the PITA framework it was some years ago - as long
as you don't look under the hood and as long as you don't try to be tricky.
AT works fine if you use it the 'standard' way - however it slaps you when 
you're trying to be smarter than AT.

Using Z3-schemas + formlib is definitely the preferred way to go. We got a 
basic content-type working for a customer based on z3-schema/formlib within
half a day (without having any knowledge in Z3 schemas and formlib).

-aj

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