[Zope-dev] Grok cave sprint summary, and future todos

[Dan Korostelev]

Also, there's a bug in zope.traversing:

The getParents function of zope.traversing.api uses the "getParents"
method of IPhysicallyLocatable, which really is new ILocationInfo, but
this interface doesn't even declare getParents method and the
RootPhysicallyLocatable adapter in zope.traversing doesn't implement
it as well so I got errors. :-/

2009/1/31 Dan Korostelev <nadako at gmail.com>:
> Hi!
>
> That's a great piece of work you did, thanks!
>
> I've been following package releases and have noticed some mistakes
> mainly in changelog formatting:
>
>> zope.proxy
>> =========
>>
>> 3.5.0 (unreleased)
>>
>>     * Added support to bootstrap on Jython.
>>     * Use zope.container instead of zope.app.container.
>
> Well, it IS released :) Also it doesn't really "use" zope.container or
> zope.app.container, there's just a comment in the .c file :)
>
>> zope.dublincore
>> =============
>>
>> 3.4.2 (unreleased)
>> 3.4.1 (2009-01-26)
>
> Again, it IS released. Also some changelog entry is missing :)
>
> Also, please, check the buildout.cfg of the zope.container, because it
> still includes some local developer develop  paths and recipes.
>
> 2009/1/31 Martijn Faassen <faassen at startifact.com>:
>> Hi there,
>>
>> I've just made a lot of releases as the result of our dependency cleanup
>> sprint. There are more releases to be made, but I think I've released
>> the most important affected packages now. Christian Theune is going to
>> follow up and release some more packages that we touched, probably tomorrow.
>>
>> I'm going to write up a document that describes how we analyzed
>> dependencies and what approaches we took so that people who want to help
>> have some idea of what to do.
>>
>> the most important affected packages are (as far as I can remember):
>>
>> zope.app.component ('class' ZCML directive moved into zope.security,
>> site stuff extracted into zope.site)
>>
>> zope.app.security ('module' directive moved into zope.security, along
>> with some helper functions)
>>
>> zope.app.container (most functionality moved into zope.container)
>>
>> zope.app.folder (base class moved into zope.container, Folder itself
>> moved into zope.site as its main function was to mix in site management
>> facilities)
>>
>> zope.traversing (depends on zope.location now instead of the other way
>> around)
>>
>> zope.location (doesn't depend on zope.traversing anymore)
>>
>> zope.site (a new package extracted from zope.app.component and
>> zope.app.folder)
>>
>> zope.container (a new package extracted from zope.app.container and
>> zope.app.folder)
>>
>> Another thing we want to do is reduce the test dependencies of packages
>> to almost nothing (or nothing at all). We think it'd be good if package
>> only used what they depend on directly for testing purposes; testing
>> dependencies in general should follow implementation dependencies. This
>> might allow us to get rid of zope.app.testing at some point. Instead
>> we'd like to see more (and more consistent!) 'testing' modules in
>> packages that help with test setup.
>>
>> We have created a bunch of tools in the process of reducing
>> dependencies: an extension to the test runner to track imports that
>> could be modified to be from a better location (though 'grep' is very
>> useful there too), z3c.recipe.compattest, and Christian Theune is
>> working on a way to 'touch' the ZODB so that it will update any moved
>> class to the new location.
>>
>> Note that we haven't finished going through the codebase changing
>> imports from zope.app.folder to zope.site where possible - volunteers
>> are welcome. This should further reduce dependencies in the entire graph
>> as zope.site pulls in far less than zope.app.folder.
>>
>> If a bunch of us keep this up we'll that'll allow us to start retiring a
>> lot of packages that are mostly unused, and have a smaller, easier set
>> of Zope 3 packages to maintain and understand. Users of the Zope 3
>> libraries (plain Zope 3, Grok, Zope 2, Repoze, and others) should all
>> benefit from this.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Martijn
>>
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