[Zope-dev] shrinking the ZTK: a proposed solution

[Jens Vagelpohl]

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Martijn Faassen wrote:
> Hey Tres,
> 
> 
> Tres Seaver wrote:
> 
>> You're kidding, right?
> [snip]
>> My self-interest?  Not really:  you are appealing to my altruism, in the
>> fact that I care about the *broader* Zope community (broader than Zope2,
>> Grok, Plone, or whatever.  Neither of my chosen platforms (Zope2, bfg)
>> rely any longer on any of thsoe pacakages at all, which makes my direct
>> interest in them exactly zero.
> 
> Basically we all worked together for a year. Now Zope 2 happens to be 
> done first moving off zope.app, so you're telling me f$%#%Q#k you, I 
> don't need you anymore, go away.

That's not what he is telling you. I don't think he ever intentionally
"worked together" to support zope.app* packages in any way. If anything,
he may have had input into and interest in the "small ZTK" packages
and/or direction, so his viewpoint has never changed.

My own perspective on this issue is similar, with the difference that my
list of chosen platforms is just Zope 2 at the moment. I'm also sharing
his belief that we're having a serious disconnect between your
expectation in regards to zope.app and how it should continue and our
belief what the ZTK was and should be.

However, none of this should lead to swearing.

jens

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