[Zope-dev] shrinking the ZTK: a proposed solution

[Martijn Faassen]

Jens Vagelpohl wrote:
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> Martijn Faassen wrote:
>> Hey Tres,
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>> Tres Seaver wrote:
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>>> You're kidding, right?
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>>> My self-interest?  Not really:  you are appealing to my altruism, in the
>>> fact that I care about the *broader* Zope community (broader than Zope2,
>>> Grok, Plone, or whatever.  Neither of my chosen platforms (Zope2, bfg)
>>> rely any longer on any of thsoe pacakages at all, which makes my direct
>>> interest in them exactly zero.
>> Basically we all worked together for a year. Now Zope 2 happens to be 
>> done first moving off zope.app, so you're telling me f$%#%Q#k you, I 
>> don't need you anymore, go away.
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> That's not what he is telling you. I don't think he ever intentionally
> "worked together" to support zope.app* packages in any way. If anything,
> he may have had input into and interest in the "small ZTK" packages
> and/or direction, so his viewpoint has never changed.

Well, Zope 2 released with a smaller but present dependency on zope.app 
some time ago. Those zope.app packages were at least until then relevant 
to Zope 2 developers. If support for them had been dropped by someone 
then, they would have had to pick up maintaining them themselves, if 
they wanted to continue tracking the ZTK and give Zope 2 users an 
upgrade path out of zope.app.

Whether they are still relevant today is harder to say as Zope 2 already 
had some transition time behind it.

Regards,

Martijn