[Zope-dev] [Checkins] SVN: zc.buildout/ Moved to github

[Chris Withers]

I'm not going to dignify this with a fuller response other than to say 
that Jean-Paul Smets' entire email is nothing but bullshit written to 
try and promote an inferior competing product ;-)

Chris

On 18/08/2012 13:31, Jean-Paul Smets wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I approve your position Jens.
>
> Moving to git can make sense. Moving to github as primary platform does
> not make sense.
>
> Github is a proprietary platform. There is really no justification in
> using a proprietary platform for open source projects, especially
> considering that many open source alternatives exist and that nothing
> prevents from using github as a mirror (for marketing purpose for example).
>
> It is not only depressing to see open source communities not eating
> their own dog food but also irresponsible.
>
> It is irresponsible because Cloud / SaaS is far from reliable. Please
> read this to get an idea.
> (http://iwgcr.org/paris-university-and-telecom-paristech-publish-availability-ranking-of-world-cloud-computing/).
> Service outages are not rare.
>
> It is irresponsible because it sends a message to the market that open
> source is not competitive (else open source communities would use it for
> themselves). Many open source git hosting solutions do exist (incl.
> gitorious, gitlab, indefero). Why not use them ?
>
> On a more positive side, Nexedi is currently sponsoring the port of
> Gitlab (http://gitlabhq.com/) open source git platform to SlapOS (
> http://www.slapos.org/) open source Cloud. This means that there will in
> a few days a python based, Zope based, buildout based and fully
> resilient platform to host open source projects, with the ability to
> manage copies of source code on servers all around the world in a true
> community fashion.
>
> And after reading today's message, I got so upset that I decided that
> Nexedi will use SlapOS to offer hosting to any open source Zope
> community project which believes enough in open source values to use
> open source tools rather than proprietary ones. This will include free
> support to any open source Zope project willing to manage its own SlapOS
> platform rather rely on ours. Let us see if Zope community will be the
> first or the last to eat its own dog food ;-).
>
> Regards,
>
> JPS.
> Nexedi CEO
>
> PS. I do not mind behind hated for using the word "irresponsible",
> whooever took the decision to use github. I do mean it.
>
> Le 18/08/2012 09:49, Jens Vagelpohl a écrit :
>> Hi Alex,
>>
>> Please revert this checkin. You can't just take core software pieces from Zope Foundation-hosted repositories and move them somewhere else.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> jens
>>
>>
>>
>> On Aug 18, 2012, at 3:09 , J. Alexander Clark<cvs-admin at zope.org>  wrote:
>>
>>> Log message for revision 127519:
>>>   Moved to github
>>>
>>>
>>> Changed:
>>>   A   zc.buildout/README_MOVED_TO_GITHUB.txt
>>>   D   zc.buildout/trunk/
>>>
>>> -=-
>>> Added: zc.buildout/README_MOVED_TO_GITHUB.txt
>>> ===================================================================
>>> --- zc.buildout/README_MOVED_TO_GITHUB.txt	                        (rev 0)
>>> +++ zc.buildout/README_MOVED_TO_GITHUB.txt	2012-08-18 01:09:06 UTC (rev 127519)
>>> @@ -0,0 +1 @@
>>> +https://github.com/buildout/buildout/tree/1.6.x
>>>
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