from dtml using REQUEST.form.items(), the order of the form variables is jumbled. is there any way to get the original order that they appeared in the <form>? assuming the browser sends them in the same order that they appear in the <form>? -d -- Adroit | Dyon Balding dyon@adroitnet.com.au Internet | http://www.adroitnet.com.au/ Solutions | work: +613 98888522, mobile: +61 0414992604