[Zope] Newbie questions and discussion

[Gary Wong]

At 11:13 PM 5/11/2000 +0200, Rik Hoekstra wrote:

> >1)  Our designers are big Dreamweaver fans.  How would we use it in
>conjunction with Zope?  I know there is a current thread about this.
>
>Perhaps some users can shed some light on how to use third party web
>publishing/design/layout tools such as Dreamweaver, Frontpage (God forbid),
>Allair Homesite, etc, with Zope.
>
>[rh]As long as they speak ftp with your Zope server, you'll be able to use
>them (even Frontpage, or at least Frontpage light). Dreamweaver works well
>(see Chris Withers' post on the thread you mentioned before for details);
>the only problem is it will not recognize 'files' without extension (if
>employed cleverly this may be turned into an advantage) . Homesite works
>very well in my experience (it doesn't speak dtml though, but then again
>nothing does
>;-( ).
>
>Many of these tools have their own way of managing websites.  Does this mean
>we have to "disable/ignore" these features, and just treat
>Dreamweaver/Frontpage/etc as a layout and design tool, and thus not benefit
>from the "libraries" or "template" functions?
>
>[rh]Yep, unless you're prepared to hack your way around. On the other hand:
>the template and library functions are taken over by Zope, only in a usually
>more sophisticated and maintainable fashion.

Thanks, Rik, for the input.  I guess we can agree that what we need is more
support for DTML.  It would be ideal to have DTML support in the way of
extensions for these type of apps (extensions for Dreamweaver, class files
for Textpad/Ultraedit/Homesite (is that what they call it?), etc).  Is it
really feasible, though, to do this since there are so many products for
Zope?  I guess we can start with a "standard" class that just have the
standard keywords.  Then, each major product would have to supply their own?
Hmm.


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