[Zope] Zope vs Kylix?

Jason Ooi archer@maxis.net.my
Thu, 19 Jul 2001 09:36:46 +0800


morning,

i know comparing zope and kylix would b exactly like how u described, no 
doubt bout that, but ur following comments are the ones i need, i only mean 
to compare zope n kylix from the web enabled apps point of view. Would it b 
easier if it's done in zope / kylix? would kylix cut productivity time?

thanx for the thoughts,
archer

On Wednesday 18 July 2001 22:20, you wrote:
> Comparing Zope to Kylix is like comparing an automobile with a
> powerboat. The only similary is that both are vehicles, but they are
> designed for completely different purposes.
>
> Kylix does not provide anything like ZODB, the ZMI (Zope Management
> Interface), the sophisticated permissions machinery, a search engine
> like ZCatalog, web-based development tools like ZClasses, ZSQLMethods
> etc.
>
> The programming language of Kylix, Object Pascal, is much lower level
> than Python and even Java, since it does not provide automatic garbage
> collection, AFAIK (you must manage memory by hand, like in C). You will
> have to write a lot of code to do many things that are simple with DTML
> or Python Scripts. And you will have to write a lot more code to develop
> anything close to any the features of Zope that I just mentioned (ZODB,
> ZMI, permissions, ZCatalog, ZClasses, ZSQLMethods).
>
> However, if I needed to develop a desktop application with a very rich
> and interactive GUI, like a specialized editor, a game or a real-time
> graphic display for some data-aquisition hardware, I would certainly
> choose Kylix over Zope or any other tool that used a web browser as a
> client-side interface.
>
> Really, there is no comparison between Zope and Kylix. And that does not
> imply any superiority by one over the other. They are just completely
> different beasts. You could compare Python and Kylix, or Zope and
> WebObjects, but that's another story...
>
> Regards,
>
> Luciano
>
> Jason Ooi wrote:
> > This is not to start a religious war or anything like it and this is
> > probably not the right list to post this too. I am a zope developer who
> > as most of us fell in luv with zope then python. My luck in running out
> > as I am being driven to use kylix instead of zope for web developement. I
> > have heard kylix is good for cross platform application developement but
> > slacks in web apps. I have seen the codes in kylix n oh wow man from the
> > surface it looks like zope is so much simplier. Personally I choose zope
> > over kylix but I need a comparison of some sort to maybe prolong my stay
> > in the zope realm.
> >
> > thanx,
> > archer
> >
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