[Zope] Zope vs Kylix?

[Tino Wildenhain]

Hi,

--On Donnerstag, 19. Juli 2001 09:36 +0800 Jason Ooi <archer@maxis.net.my> 
wrote:

> morning,
>
> i know comparing zope and kylix would b exactly like how u described, no
> doubt bout that, but ur following comments are the ones i need, i only
> mean  to compare zope n kylix from the web enabled apps point of view.
> Would it b  easier if it's done in zope / kylix? would kylix cut
> productivity time?

As I read it below, it does not cut time in developing web applications.
This is quite obvious, isnt it?

Regards
Tino

> thanx for the thoughts,
> archer
>
> On Wednesday 18 July 2001 22:20, you wrote:
>> Comparing Zope to Kylix is like comparing an automobile with a
>> powerboat. The only similary is that both are vehicles, but they are
>> designed for completely different purposes.
>>
>> Kylix does not provide anything like ZODB, the ZMI (Zope Management
>> Interface), the sophisticated permissions machinery, a search engine
>> like ZCatalog, web-based development tools like ZClasses, ZSQLMethods
>> etc.
>>
>> The programming language of Kylix, Object Pascal, is much lower level
>> than Python and even Java, since it does not provide automatic garbage
>> collection, AFAIK (you must manage memory by hand, like in C). You will
>> have to write a lot of code to do many things that are simple with DTML
>> or Python Scripts. And you will have to write a lot more code to develop
>> anything close to any the features of Zope that I just mentioned (ZODB,
>> ZMI, permissions, ZCatalog, ZClasses, ZSQLMethods).
>>
>> However, if I needed to develop a desktop application with a very rich
>> and interactive GUI, like a specialized editor, a game or a real-time
>> graphic display for some data-aquisition hardware, I would certainly
>> choose Kylix over Zope or any other tool that used a web browser as a
>> client-side interface.
>>
>> Really, there is no comparison between Zope and Kylix. And that does not
>> imply any superiority by one over the other. They are just completely
>> different beasts. You could compare Python and Kylix, or Zope and
>> WebObjects, but that's another story...
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Luciano
>>
>> Jason Ooi wrote:
>> > This is not to start a religious war or anything like it and this is
>> > probably not the right list to post this too. I am a zope developer who
>> > as most of us fell in luv with zope then python. My luck in running out
>> > as I am being driven to use kylix instead of zope for web
>> > developement. I have heard kylix is good for cross platform
>> > application developement but slacks in web apps. I have seen the codes
>> > in kylix n oh wow man from the surface it looks like zope is so much
>> > simplier. Personally I choose zope over kylix but I need a comparison
>> > of some sort to maybe prolong my stay in the zope realm.
>> >
>> > thanx,
>> > archer
>> >
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