[Zope] Q: Verifying the poll numbers

seb bacon seb@jamkit.com
Mon, 21 May 2001 14:38:29 +0100


Um, not a very helpful comment, but: it all depends on what the IDE
does. 

Really, I'm happy using emacs for my development, but I still voted on
for an IDE in the zopezen poll and on the spa^D^D^Dsurvey discussed late last
week ;-) 

That's because I'm fed up of a few small things:

 - the old grep / cvs / cli dev tool problem
 - the hassle of making new products (it's not that hard, but
   nonetheless it'd be nice to have some stub-generating wizard
   thingums)  
 - debugging.  perhaps I'm going about it wrong, but I find debugging
   very frustrating, because each time I want to trace something, I
   have to start the server inside emacs, add a import
   pdb;pdb.set_trace(), find my bug, and then kill everything, remove
   the import statement and start again. (is that how others do it?
   perhaps I should start a new thread...)

of course, these requirements could be met by a few changes to the
Zope core and some cheap and cheerful scripts.  so I don't really know
if I want an IDE or not.  I just want it to be easier to develop Zope
products, and a really nice IDE should no exactly that.  if it did,
I'd pay, but I've not got much money ;)

* Chris Withers <chrisw@nipltd.com> [010521 13:24]:
> > Maybe a joint project with PythonWare, using Tkinter?
> 
> Andy D here at NIP is working on the very beginnings of just such a thing ;-)

did you see shane's wxpython ZOBD browser?

  http://lists.zope.org/pipermail/zope-dev/2001-April/010880.html

cheers,

seb.