[Zope] Urgent help needed: Zope falls over under moderate load

marc lindahl marc@bowery.com
Tue, 20 Nov 2001 16:09:26 -0500


What about the -t option, to create more threads?

> From: "Michael Fraase" <mfraase@farces.com>
> Organization: ARTS & FARCES LLC
> Reply-To: <mfraase@farces.com>
> Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 14:40:25 -0600
> To: "'Chris McDonough'" <chrism@zope.com>, "'Chris Withers'"
> <chrisw@nipltd.com>
> Cc: <zope@zope.org>
> Subject: RE: [Zope] Urgent help needed: Zope falls over under moderate load
> 
> I guess I'm confused. Everything that *could* be cached *was* cached.
> And no, I don't run a caching server or a proxy server or anything else
> in front of Zope. I'm a writer, not a programmer.
> 
> The /. piece hit about 1:00 AM. By 1:01 AM Zope had folded like a cheap
> suit. It's still going down about every 40 minutes or so.
> 
> Now remember, my outbound bandwidth is limited to 512Kb.
> 
> Am I correct in my understanding that Zope can't handle even 512Kb of
> demand without some technical doohickey in front of it so it doesn't
> fall down?
> 
> No offense intended, but I think two internal Squishdot pages meet the
> definition of pretty dang simple.
> 
> And why does it fall over anyway? This just doesn't make any sense to
> me. I can see it getting slow and timing out, but giving up completely
> and just bailing? What's that about? Explain it to me like I'm an
> intelligent, non-technical friend. Thanks.
> 
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Chris McDonough [mailto:chrism@zope.com]
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 2:38 PM
>> To: Chris Withers
>> Cc: mfraase@farces.com; zope@zope.org
>> Subject: Re: [Zope] Urgent help needed: Zope falls over under
>> moderate load
>> 
>> 
>>> Hurm... so Zope's no good if you want to build a scalable _and_
>> dynamic site?
>>> 
>>> surely that's a little worrying?
>> 
>> Not really.  Zope depends on caching and cannot survive a
>> high transaction rate without it unless your site is very
>> very very simple. Usually, if you don't cache or serve only
>> static content, you can't running a high-volume site using
>> Zope or mod_perl or ASP or whatever-else; it's as simple as that.
>> 
>> But you knew that.
>> 
>> - C
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
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