[Zope] Zope Community Awards Results

Jens Vagelpohl jens@zope.com
Fri, 9 Aug 2002 13:14:24 -0400


you're correct that anonymous voting can never be trusted. that's why any 
product that implements this kind of polling should have mechanisms to 
detect and prevent ballot stuffing by itself. there's several ways to do 
it, like with cookies, or storing IPs, etc

jens


On Friday, August 9, 2002, at 11:57 , Andy McKay wrote:

> It did actually say you had to be logged in to vote on the front page, 
> just
> not in big clear letters it seemed. The reason for restricting membership 
> is
> that last time I didnt a whole bunch of people voted lots of times and
> pushed up numbers for their results. I had to spend a lot of time 
> rummaging
> through logs finding similar IP addresses and removing those votes.
> Anonymous voting cannot be trusted, which is a big shame.
>
> That was the one and only reason for membership.
> --
>   Andy McKay
>   Agmweb Consulting
>   http://www.agmweb.ca
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jens Vagelpohl" <jens@zope.com>
> To: "Zopista" <zopista@zopezen.org>
> Cc: <zope@zope.org>
> Sent: Friday, August 09, 2002 4:49 AM
> Subject: Re: [Zope] Zope Community Awards Results
>
>
>> andy,
>>
>> on the link you provide you mused about the relative lack of response.
>> here's the reason why i did not vote:
>>
>> when i went to the voting page it was openly accessible to anonymous
> users.
>>   i filled it in but only after submitting it was i told that i need a
>> membership. that ticked me off sufficiently to abandon the whole thing.
>>
>> next time, please guard the whole voting form from anonymous (if you 
>> still
>> insist on zopezen membership as a precondition, that is). if the
>> membership requirement had been more clear i might even have joined.
>>
>> i found that membership requirement a little nonsensical given how your
>> goal was to attract a lot of people to vote. having more site members is
>> great, but if you end up having people create accounts they will never 
>> use
>> again just because they have to in order to vote then you probably agree
>> that you overshot on your other goal of increasing site membership ;)
>>
>> jens
>>
>>
>> On Friday, August 9, 2002, at 02:18 , Zopista wrote:
>>
>>> Are up at http://www.zopezen.org/Members/zopista/1028873559
>>>
>>> In brief:
>>>
>>> Best Product: CMF
>>> Best core Zope addition: Page Templates
>>> Best Zope book: The Zope Book
>>> Best Python book: Learning Python
>>> Best community web site: ZopeZen
>>> Most helpful person: Dieter Maurer
>>>
>>> Thanks everyone for taking part.
>>> --
>>>   Andy McKay
>>>   Agmweb Consulting
>>>   http://www.agmweb.ca
>>>
>>
>>
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