[Zope] location url
garry saddington
garry at joydiv.fsnet.co.uk
Tue Dec 9 15:48:47 EST 2003
On Tuesday 09 December 2003 21:18, J Cameron Cooper wrote:
> garry saddington wrote:
> >On Tuesday 09 December 2003 02:56, J. Cameron Cooper wrote:
> >>garry saddington wrote:
> >>>How can I set it so that the real location url of my Plone site is not
> >>>shown in the location bar of the browser but is replaced by something
> >>>else?
> >>
> >>In order of preference: You may set up RewriteRules however you like in
> >>an Apache in front of you Zope.
> >
> >I don't have an Apache in front of my Zope so this one is ruled out.
>
> You should consider it: it's a very good idea to have something in front
> of Zope, especially if you're doing URL re-writing. RewriteRule is very
> very powerful.
>
> >>to do similar things. It is also possible to over-ride various methods
> >>to play tricks with object publishing. (If you don't know which,
> >>probably you shouldn't try.)
> >
> >I asked the question because I want to try. If I had approached everything
> > in Zope with an attitude of 'well I don't know, so I won't try' I would
> > not be using it at all and I would hazard a guess that nobody else would
> > either. I have searched Zope.org extensively for pointers and when I drew
> > a blank, I naturally thought to ask on the list. A simple have a look at
> > VHM would have done instead of the patronising tone of your reply.
> >However, I now have an idea of where I can look for an answer, so I thank
> > you for the reply.
>
> I would never suggest that as a general rule, and in fact spend a lot of
> time showing people how to do advanced things. But I cautioned you on
> this point for a very specific reason: modifying publishing and
> traversal is specially tricky and difficult, and much more likely to
> make you swear like a sailor than provide a workable solution. Consider
> tires: Writing Python scripts and templates is like changing your tires.
> Writing new Products is like mounting tires on new wheels. Playing with
> publishing and traversal and such is like manufacturing your own tires.
> When someone asks "how can I get better traction in the rain?" one might
> for completeness add "you can make your own tires with a specially
> hydrophobic rubber (but you probably shouldn't if you don't know how)."
>
> If you want to try, take a look at the source of Products that do this,
> and at the source of the Zope methods that they over-ride or use. That
> should give you the grounding to try things like this, though if you
> manage to really understand the implementation details, hey, you've got
> one up on me.
>
> (Another intermediate suggestion, btw, that sort of belongs with rewrite
> rules and VHM is the traversal_subpath in a Python script. There's a
> good bit of magic you can usually do safely there.)
>
> --jcc
Thanks, I appreciate your time and input. You expalin it well now. I am the
sort of person that will mess, but not with a production server! I now have
more material to mess with.
regards
garry
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