[Zope] Lost the battle

[Dieter Maurer]

Bo M. Maryniuck wrote at 2003-1-9 16:21 +0200:
 > ... many imperfections with Zope ...
 > ....
 > When you turn off your rose eyeglasses, you will see that J2EE is not so bad 
 > as Python folks describes it, even if there is ugly Java language... Sad, but 
 > true. :-(
Isn't this true also for J2EE?

When I worked with J2EE, I met at least as many imperfections as in Zope:

     *  buggy JVM

     *  horrible and disfunctional debugger ("jdb")

     *  completely weird error messages from Weblogic application server

     *  horrible deployment

     *  excessive development turn around times

     *  missing checks in EJB query syntax

     *  incredible database interaction time for simple EJB access

     *  ....

A small task (something like an afternoon with Zope) took about
16 days for 2 people. A big part has been that we did not yet
know all the traps in our J2EE development environment.
We fall into many of them and usually it took an afternoon to
get out again (and understand what had happened in the first place).

I never made such experiences with Python/Zope.


Dieter