Drew Nichols wrote at 2004-5-10 12:16 +1000: >Do zodb objects have a creation time attr like the >bobobase_modification_time?? >If so what is it? bobobase_creation_time doesn't seem to do it . No. Look at CMF (or Plone and/or Archetypes). There you get (or can easily define) a creation time (and other usefull meta data). -- Dieter