[Zope] Re: Leave the ivory tower now!

[Michael Haubenwallner]

Nicolas Georgakopoulos wrote:

> Here are my ideas to make Zope 3 the most successful framework ever:
> 
>> Make them love Zope at the very first look:
>>
>>    * Make installing Zope a double-click or one-command-only 
>> experience and
>>    * offer a 30 minutes tutorial of programming an useful application
>>      including an audiovisual show for an appetizer that offers a feeling
>>      of success.
>>
>> Enable the beginners:
>>
>>    * Easy to read and understand ‹ but still complete and current ‹
>>      documentation is a must.
>>    * Avoid cluttering everything about Zope across articles, blogs, 
>> chats,
>>      mailing lists and wikis. Keep everything available and searchable at
>>      one central location.
>>
>>
>>  
>>
> 
> I think "Make them love Zope at the very first look" and "Enable the 
> Beginner" is on the same issue , I consider my self a beginner and 
> trying to learn Zope I found many resources on google but a little bit 
> of "chaos" , a better united source from the central Zope (Zope.org) it 
> is required. I is a shame to know that there is a big help and a big 
> community but not so well united and organized.
> Zope Book 2.7 it is in the same stage it was before 3,5 months ago when 
> I started to reading it with some example only in DTML when Zope 
> encourage leaving DTML for ZPT.
> The how-to section 
> (http://www.zope.org/Documentation/How-To/index_html?&sort_on=modified&sort_order=reverse) 
> have *_only_* 3 post's for the year *2005 *!!!
> A Zope editor is a must or to find another way more flexible ! external 
> editor product it is steel a way but a ugly way in my opinion (no 
> offense for the product) , to add numbers on every line when coding it 
> will be a big step.
> 
> I don't want to blame the official Zope team , the are running with hard 
> work for sure. It is just that Zope can do so much thing's compare to 
> other products out there but important details have been left 
> unaccomplished...
> 
> I hope the point of this mail is to make Zope better and not to be 
> considered as an accusation or an attack...
> 
> Zope need and can become better :)
> 
> 

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  wanting to help to review and consolidate that information is welcome 
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(zope-web at zope.org).

Michael

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