[Zope] Re: Leave the ivory tower now!

[Nicolas Georgakopoulos]

Michael Haubenwallner wrote:

> Nicolas Georgakopoulos wrote:
>
>> Here are my ideas to make Zope 3 the most successful framework ever:
>>
>>> Make them love Zope at the very first look:
>>>
>>>    * Make installing Zope a double-click or one-command-only 
>>> experience and
>>>    * offer a 30 minutes tutorial of programming an useful application
>>>      including an audiovisual show for an appetizer that offers a 
>>> feeling
>>>      of success.
>>>
>>> Enable the beginners:
>>>
>>>    * Easy to read and understand ‹ but still complete and current ‹
>>>      documentation is a must.
>>>    * Avoid cluttering everything about Zope across articles, blogs, 
>>> chats,
>>>      mailing lists and wikis. Keep everything available and 
>>> searchable at
>>>      one central location.
>>>
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>
>> I think "Make them love Zope at the very first look" and "Enable the 
>> Beginner" is on the same issue , I consider my self a beginner and 
>> trying to learn Zope I found many resources on google but a little 
>> bit of "chaos" , a better united source from the central Zope 
>> (Zope.org) it is required. I is a shame to know that there is a big 
>> help and a big community but not so well united and organized.
>> Zope Book 2.7 it is in the same stage it was before 3,5 months ago 
>> when I started to reading it with some example only in DTML when Zope 
>> encourage leaving DTML for ZPT.
>> The how-to section 
>> (http://www.zope.org/Documentation/How-To/index_html?&sort_on=modified&sort_order=reverse) 
>> have *_only_* 3 post's for the year *2005 *!!!
>> A Zope editor is a must or to find another way more flexible ! 
>> external editor product it is steel a way but a ugly way in my 
>> opinion (no offense for the product) , to add numbers on every line 
>> when coding it will be a big step.
>>
>> I don't want to blame the official Zope team , the are running with 
>> hard work for sure. It is just that Zope can do so much thing's 
>> compare to other products out there but important details have been 
>> left unaccomplished...
>>
>> I hope the point of this mail is to make Zope better and not to be 
>> considered as an accusation or an attack...
>>
>> Zope need and can become better :)
>>
>>
>
> zope.org HowTos are something between 1000 and 3000 documents. 
> Everyone  wanting to help to review and consolidate that information 
> is welcome to send a note to webmaster at zope.org or to the zope-web 
> mailing list (zope-web at zope.org).
>
> Michael
>
I think you are wrong , on Zope site it say's -> Zope How-Tos 1- 20 of 300

cheers...