[Zope] Re: Debugging product init with zopectl?

[Tres Seaver]

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Konrad Rokicki wrote:
> Hi all,
> I'm new to Zope, getting started with the "minimal" project
> (http://www.zope.org/Members/maxm/HowTo/minimal_01). For whatever
> reason, minimal doesn't work out of the box. That would be fine except
> that when I start Zope with zopectl it reports status as fine and the
> process runs, but I don't get any logs generated and I can't connect
> to the server.
> 
> But, if I use runzope I can see what's wrong and the server dies immediately:
> File "/var/lib/zope/zope-test/Products/minimal/__init__.py", line 8,
> in initialize
>     constructors = (
> AttributeError: manage_addMinimalForm
> 
> My concern isn't this error, which I fixed by importing the function
> explicitly. But why did I have to use runzope to see this? Shouldn't
> zopectl inform me that the server is completely broken?
> 
> By the way, I'm using a standard Gentoo installation of Zope, and I
> haven't changed any options from defaults.
> 
> Could someone please tell me if this is expected behavior? Should I be
> using runzope in a screen or something?

In "production mode", Zope will start even if a product fails to import;
 you should see it complain in the logs in this case.  In debug mode, it
stops and complains.  I usually run 'bin/zopectl fg' to do the testing,
which forces debug mode on (at least in recent 2.7.x).

Tres Seaver.
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