[Zope] Hiding HTML URL

David H bluepaul at earthlink.net
Mon May 23 18:28:50 EDT 2005


Chris Withers wrote:

>> I wish I could impose my ideas on users.   I respond to specs.  Yes, 
>> I will fight the good fight when a spec is silly.
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> If this is coming from a spec, it's very silly, and a total waste of 
> your time...
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>> I've even turned down gigs because the client was stubborn and what 
>> they wanted would be a disaster. 
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> So you turned this one down, right?
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>> But URL "cloaking" is not silly to some clients and the pattern I 
>> described handles it nicely and has benefits well beyond maintaining 
>> a stable URL.
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> Oh? Do enlighten us... ;-)
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>> Note:  Sometimes I sense a "culture clash" between Advanced Zope 
>> developement guys,
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> "people with brains"
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>> Web presentation guys 
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> "people with too little brain to understand or care what usability 
> really means" ;-)
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>> and us lowly application developers that get the joy of accounting 
>> systems online.
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> "people who should know better but are too timid to speak" *grinz*
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>> Im curious, how is it "hostile" to a user?
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> It's grim to debug, and will confuse your users even more when it goes 
> wrong. "but the thingy in the box is still the same, why is it not 
> working"
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>> If there are superior patterns (for Business Apps) Im the first that 
>> wants to see them and this is  a welcome discussion. :-)
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> There are many, but that's beyond the scope of this list...
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> cheers,
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> Chris
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Hi Chris,
Yeah I really should put a representative model online. When I do I'll 
invite a new wave of assaults but its all for the good. 8-)   Because if 
people show me a better way for the kinds of apps I develope 
(accounting) then that would be great.
On the otherhand you may be surprised at what the "stateless" machine 
concept can accomplish - and how elegant it is. 

Thanks,
David

ps - your SimpleUserFolder Rocks!


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