[Zope3-dev] Re: Page Architecture: Term suggestions

[Paul Everitt]

Martijn Faassen wrote:
> Tonico Strasser wrote:
> 
>> Martijn Faassen wrote:
> 
> [snip]
> 
>>> -1 from me
>>>
>>> I don't think DOM Document and DocumentFragment are consistent with 
>>> what I perceive to be desired. Are there definitions of 'Page' and 
>>> 'Pagelet' somewhere?
>>>
>>> The DOM core definition talks about XML trees. You can have a whole 
>>> tree (a Document) and part of a tree (a DocumentFragment). There are 
>>> other W3C recommendations that probably use different language. The 
>>> whole pagelet stuff I believe is far more about layout and 
>>> presentation concerns, something the DOM core is not about. I think 
>>> it would be confusing to use these DOM terms.
>>
>>
>>
>> Im concerned about that we are going to reinwent things. A layout is a 
>> XML document, isn't it?
> 
> 
> In my experience a "layout" is typically some HTML template + CSS + 
> Javascript.
> 
> Pagelet is a term that seems to be used in some Java (JSP) and Cold 
> Fusion contexts, but I can't find much of a definition. Java does have a 
> JSR on *portlets*, which is a related concept though I think broader 
> than pagelets. If you don't want to reinvent things, they'd still be 
> useful to examine, though:
> 
> http://www.javaworld.com/javaworld/jw-08-2003/jw-0801-portlet.html
> 
> And the JSR itself:
> 
> http://www.jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=168

There's also the JavaServer "Faces" stuff:

"""
JavaServer Faces technology simplifies building user interfaces for 
JavaServer applications. Developers of various skill levels can quickly 
build web applications by: assembling reusable UI components in a page; 
connecting these components to an application data source....
"""

Some URLs:

   http://java.sun.com/j2ee/javaserverfaces/index.jsp
   http://www.exadel.com/tutorial/jsf/jsftutorial-kickstart.html
   http://java.sun.com/j2ee/1.4/docs/tutorial/doc/JSFIntro.html

I have no experience with this whatsoever, just contributing to the list 
of background information.

--Paul