Hi, zope.app.exception depends on zope.formlib to use the NamedTemplate for the Unauthorized view. As zope.formlib has many dependencies I propose to depend on z3c.template to get a named template. (Even z3c.layer.pagelet depends on zope.app.exception (for the Unauthorized view) and so it depends on zope.formlib.) I implemented the proposal in svn+ssh://svn.zope.org/repos/main/ zope.app.exception/branches/icemac_no_formlib (I also added a minimized patch of my changes to this e-mail.) Any comments on this implementation? Should I do the include <include package="z3c.template" file="meta.zcml" /> in zope.app.exception's configure.zcml or only in the ftesting.zcml? Yours sincerely, -- Michael Howitz · mh@gocept.com · software developer gocept gmbh & co. kg · forsterstraße 29 · 06112 halle (saale) · germany http://gocept.com · tel +49 345 1229889 8 · fax +49 345 1229889 1 Zope and Plone consulting and development