Hi all I have 'index_html (Welcome to the Mosaic Intranet)' and 'standard_html_header' in '/' (the site root). 'standard_html_header' does the usual:: <!--#var title_or_id--> Maybe I shouldn't be, but I was somewhat surprised that this renders the title of '/' instead of the title of 'index_html'. ("title" == "the title property of"). What further confuses me is that '/docs' has no title, and it contains 'index_html (Document Warehouse)'. Now 'standard_html_header' renders '/docs/index_html's title. If '/' has no title and '/index_html' does, 'standard_html_header' renders no title. This seems inconsistent. Because there's acquisition stuff that escapes me, doubtless. Anyone have 50c worth of enlightenment? -- Jean Jordaan -- technical writer -- Mosaic Sofware -- Zope 2.1.6 on W2K